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Ive taperedtown to .5 milligrams every 3 days meaning if I take .5 on Monday Iwon't take any more until Thursday. I was suppose to dose yesterday but decided to jump and I'm now on day 4. I don'felled to hot today but nothing like I have read on here. But by the time I get my vacation I should have 21 days clean.  And last but not least there is no plan b. I'm very determined. More than I have ever been in my life. I'm like a UFC fighter trying to win the title with quiting suboxone being my title. Please excuse myspelling and spacing errors. My iPad sucks

Jeremy

Aye stop at 20 mill mist 2 days. Went to 8 mist 2 day went to 4 missed a day agent to 2. Missed a day went to on then toke half of one for a few day then a quart for a good few days job done.

Day 5 with no subs. Woke up felt pretty bad. Took a shower then went to church. I actually felt a lot better then I stayed busy the rest of the day and haven't felt too bad. Mainly just weak, brain feels fuzzy, and legs aches.  Can't sleep very well but overall I'm doing very well. 

Jeremy

Jeremy, hey I am hoping that you keep posting and keep us updated. I am very interested to find out if the tapering plan results in reduced symptoms or less time in withdrawal(or both?). Anyway, a little personal background in my life, well first off I am female but can't change the pic. I have a bachelor in science and nursing, BSN, but am currently not working because I was battling an aggressive marrow cancer for a few years. Currently, I am in remission, but in all likelihood it will come back eventually...I studied the human body and I know it would be a miracle if the cancer did not come back. I was on a lot of pain medications and eventually referred to suboxone. Unlike many people, I understood that it is addicting and creates symptoms of withdrawal(any opiate will..buprenophrine is an opiate). Also, I had an awesome sub doctor who never prescribed high doses, mostly at my request. I had an advantage, because I understand medicine and the body response more than the average sub user. STILL I never thought the withdrawal would last this long or be this brutal. Also, I want to point out that stress triggers acute symptoms, even if you haven't had them for a while. I know you are returning to a high stress job, and I am only trying to prepare you. You won't snap back to normal, it will take time even after the acute symptoms are gone...just give your body time. Considering the impact suboxone has on the internal organs...its a miracle we can recover at all. But that is the human body...that is what it does best :)

Thanks - I appreciate the encouragement lol! I am not looking at it that way. I think it has a lot to do with maybe their lives in general. If they have a c**p or no support system, I can def see depression happening. Im not doubting ppl have PAWS. I fortunately have good things in my life so trying to stay positive as shitty as I feel, I'm fighting it. Dont get me wrong, I do have bad moments but getting over the 1s 2-3 wks is huge! This is a community that I feel needs to support each other. I never want to feel Sub WD ever again & never taking any pain pills or Suboxone ever again. I'm totally fighting this. I do believe we'll get out of this. I cant imagine the rest of our lives this will be in our system. I actually know 3 ppl who are totally done with pills & suboxone and are totally doing really great now and that was 3 yrs ago, so I'm trying to keep positive and & not have negative thoughts.Trying very hard! What's your deal? You still on Suboxone? Tried to stop, but can't get thru it? Im just curious because you sound hopeless and I would like to give you some hope at least.

I couldnt agree with you more about the healing process. We're both at day 25? Still ups and downs, more ups now, Thank God! Last week were def more downs. When you say you usually feel optimistic, sometimes sad and sometimes nothing, that is EXACTLY how I feel. Today so far is good for me. Hope you're doing well!

Glad to hear! Keep it up! Hot showers are good. Take as many as you can. Any exercise (movement) is good. Showering in the beginning for me was the only exercise I was doing, so the fact that you were able to leave the house and go to church is amazing! I didnt leave my house until day 9. I think that was mistake on my part because the moment I got out, I felt better. People were right when they said exercise or walk even if its for a few minutes. Sleeping is rough now but that too shall pass. The insomnia really sucks at this point but I swear that goes away & eventually you will have a good night's rest and feel so much better the next day. Hang in there! Good luck & keep us posted ! Dina

Day 6. Didn't sleep good last night. Woke up. Went to work and worked hard all day. Didn't think about withdrawals. Brain still feels kind of fuzzy but other than that I'm in good shape.  I think I may be in the paws stage now. I may just be on day 6 with nothing but I just took 1.5 milligrams over 9 days before I jumped so the subs should be out of my system. I think my brain is just adjusting now. But overall I am doing very well. It may get worse but I don't think it will.  I suffered a little during my last 2 months of tapering so we will c

 

Jeremy

My biggestproblem is cant sleep

I was on Oxycontin, oxycodone, Soma, vicodin, morphine, demerol, deludid - etc for 16 years because of a back injury. I started Suboxone abouot 4 months ago and don 't like what the side effects are doing to me. How in the devil do I get off of this stuff and be narcotic free again? I'm tired of walking down my hall and bouncing off the walls.

Riiighhhtt... 9 months off of Suboxone. 100% clean. It's possible. I'm living proof. There is a way out. Ignore ignorant posts like this. EVERYONE here can do it.

Nice JoJo. Keep coming back and tell these ppl. We need more of you. We need encouragement, not these negative posts. Awesome job 9 months!

Day 7 is pretty well like day 6 maybe a little better. Still just getting around 4 hours of sleep

 

Jeremy

Has anyone had any luck with things like valerian root/kava-kava/passion flower for sleeping? I have a lovely migraine tendency and everything that helps me sleep also gives me headaches. Anyway, Jeremy try some of those things I mentioned. You can find them at most health food stores or places that sell supplements. When you are on break from work, try to grab sleep whenever it comes. My sleeping schedule seemed to shift a lot too. I usually get around 4-5 hours at night, but I am really sleeping in the early evening so I try to take a nap and usually get the best sleep during those 'nap times'. It isn't always possible to randomly take a nap when your tired, but sometimes it is worth it. If you start to feel sleepy at a weird time, just go lay down and see what happens. The other day I feel asleep at 7p.m. and slept for 3 hours. It was the best REM sleep I have had through this entire ordeal and I felt like a million dollars...of course I didn't sleep during the rest of the night but I still felt so much better. I actually felt like I had a full 8 hour sleep in 3 hours. Also, I hear a lot about phenibut on other forums for opiate withdrawal...but I don't know much about it except it may be a legal benzo/xanax type of thing. I haven't tried that but it would probably give me a headache anyway, and if it is a benzo-type, use with caution. Benzo withdrawal is infinitely worse than opiate withdrawal. Anyway...good luck and keep it up.

Day 8 off subs.  Still not sleeping well.  I get probaly 3 hours of peaceful sleep and toss and turn the other 5 .  It sucks.  But other than that my energy level is about 80 percent.  I have little changes in my body like for example,  my shoulder that i had surgery on is starting to hurt .  I beleive the subs kind of took care of the pain but the pain isn't bad .  Other than that im good.  I eat well, use the bathroom normal,(just bad gas) and really feal pretty close to normal.  Notice i said close, im not there yet but its getting better.  I think it will be a month before my brain feels completely clear again but time will tell.  But overall i have to say the taper plan worked verywell.  Im on day 8 and am able to do things taht a normal person can do without withdrawals holding me back. 

Jeremy

Honestly, i'm going thru it as we speak...but i'm kind of a pro at this by now...this is my 3rd time quitting subs....you have to taper down to a minute piece...than skip a day etc...One other thing, is that i really really really believe its not so much the amount of sub you start on, but more or less the duration you've taken subs for....i never took more than 2mg in a day, but i took it for years (dumb i know)....but anyway my withdrawals have always been super long and drawn out....and not as bad as opiate withdrawal, but sorta the same and lasts way longer....only reason i think its not as bad as opiate withdrawal is because i always weened, but with opiates i   never was successful at weening....anyways good luck and god bless there is no really easy way out of it:( sucks i know.......when you take drugs your really just borrowing energy i think....and eventually you gotta try to make do with what you gave up while on drugs....seriously think about it....you'll come to the same conclusion.....oh and i'm at about 21 days LOL and still bother'n me sorta...not totally out of my skin, but i don't sleep and my blood pressure still rises and drops etc...irritable ....and i always got that taste in my mouth not sure what thats all about but it sucks ass