I also think this is fascinating although I'm not a doctor, but I also know it is absolutely true. In case you do want to research it I will tell you some experiences I have. I drink quite alot almost every day. When I was a teenager, I used to be able to drink a bottle of whiskey and still function, albeit badly, without people knowing I was too drunk. Right now, half a bottle of whiskey has the same effect. My wife's father, who has drunk all his life and is 61 years old, gets very drunk from three or four beers. I don't know all his symptoms, but I do dry heave and vomit clear bile quite often if I STOP drinking. The mention of alcohol makes me feel ill although the drinking of alcohol does not and usually fixes any of the bad effects I've been feeling. My wife is a nurse and has some medical training and said there is no real cure for a hangover except to keep drinking, but of course the after effect of this is that you are simply drunk all the time which is unpleasant.
Hi, I have the same symptoms as most of you, I won't repeat them here. In my case, I have found the cause of the symptoms. Hopefully, it will be the same cause for some of you (because it's nothing really serious).
My doctor discovered I have 'slow gastric emptying'. This means food stays longer in your stomach than normal. There are some circumstances that can make the emptying even slower, even up to the point of a full shutdown: Stress, flu and... alcohol! In case of alcohol, the food and alcohol can stay in the stomach all night and will irritate the gastric mucosa up to the point that you'll need to vomit once, or multiple times during the next day (and can lead to a terrible overall feeling and bowel problems).
There is some medicine that can stimulate the stomach movements, maybe this can help you. The slow gastric emptying can be diagnosed in several ways: With a camera in the stomach or by eating some radioactive pancake and sitting behind a large camera that can detect the movement of the food.
Hopefully, this can help some of you. My native language is not English, so I might made some mistakes with the medical terms.
My doctor discovered I have 'slow gastric emptying'. This means food stays longer in your stomach than normal. There are some circumstances that can make the emptying even slower, even up to the point of a full shutdown: Stress, flu and... alcohol! In case of alcohol, the food and alcohol can stay in the stomach all night and will irritate the gastric mucosa up to the point that you'll need to vomit once, or multiple times during the next day (and can lead to a terrible overall feeling and bowel problems).
There is some medicine that can stimulate the stomach movements, maybe this can help you. The slow gastric emptying can be diagnosed in several ways: With a camera in the stomach or by eating some radioactive pancake and sitting behind a large camera that can detect the movement of the food.
Hopefully, this can help some of you. My native language is not English, so I might made some mistakes with the medical terms.
So in the nicest possible way im glad to see im not the only one with this problem. is not drinking the only solution?? i hope not!! so im a 28 year old male. been drinkin g from an early age. used to be able nto drink n drink, all weekend long sometimes, with just usual alcohol systems ie normal sick if i drunk to much and feel rough at worst for a few hours the next day. now for about the last 8 years, and getting more frequent even tho i drink a lot less frequent, the day after a drink 75% of the time i will backwards and forwards to the toilet the throw up whatevers in my stomach and bile. if theres nothing in my stomach i will just dry heave then up comes the bile. not even water will stay down!!! but seriously sufferers is a ice cold glass of water after sicking not the nicest thing in the world?? even tho you know youl be seeing it again very soon. Ive tried all types of alcohol, eating before drinking, lining my stomach with milk, all kinds of morning after remedies, but nothing works consitantly. new years eve i drunk over a littre of vodka neat, blacked out, got arrested, but was fine in the morning, other times tho just 2 or 3 drinks, not even enough to get merry and i suffer for 12 hours the next day. so why oh why is this happening?? is it our livers?? reflux?? some sort of allergie??, gs? i really would like to know! something ive not seen anyone else ask is do any sufferers parents have this problem??? my mum does not drink because she says it makes her sick!!! also do any sufferers have non alcoholic foods or drinks that theyre alergic to??? im alergic to shellfish and the experience is very similar, except with the shellfish my lips burn a bit. the sickness is the same routine tho. any hows im very glad to have found this thread, very intresting reading. my next step i think will be to try as someone on here suggested, a course of prevacid. have any other sufferers tried this yet??? if i when i do this i will repost to let you know how i got on. till then i think we need to keep trying to find the common factors, and if one person finds a cure or even a reason hopefully we can all benifit.
Hey everyone. I have also had the same issues. It seems weird that so many people have them but there is no general explanation to the problem. Like everyone else, I used to drink heavily from 15yrs old on and first got the merry hangover full of headaches and puking when I was 18 on my graduation day
Irony aside, lately I have been thinking our problem may have to do somehow with the gallbladder. The reason is that this is the organ that holds and realeases bile created in the liver. I am not a doctor but after some research what I suspect may be happening is that the liver produces a lot of bile and stores in the gallbladder when there is no food in the digestive system (gallbladder is a storage for bile). The day after drinking the gallbladder gets overwhelmed with bile and abnormally releases it in great amount which makes us throw it up. This explains why people may not have bad hangovers if they ate while drinking, so try not drinking on empty stomach to test this.
I also think the body metabolises alcohol at different stages leaving the hardest bad toxins to process for the end. These final stages of the process may cause the extra bile flow and thus the condition. Therefore, if you start drinking the next day again :) you may move back the metabolitic process to an earlier stage, stop the increased bile flow, and not get the condition. Any volunteers to try this? :)
Anyway, I generally try eating healthily and if I go out for a social drink I do not do it on empty stomach. I also try not to drink excessively and not to mix types of liquor (the more you mix liquors, the more bad toxins you put in the system). This way I seem to be able to prevent the "hangover".
Also DONT DRINK REDBULL! At first it looked like it helps me have less hangovers until I got shortness of breath one day and some pain in the gallbladder area. It may be something that only adds to the problem.
I am interested to know what you guys think?
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Irony aside, lately I have been thinking our problem may have to do somehow with the gallbladder. The reason is that this is the organ that holds and realeases bile created in the liver. I am not a doctor but after some research what I suspect may be happening is that the liver produces a lot of bile and stores in the gallbladder when there is no food in the digestive system (gallbladder is a storage for bile). The day after drinking the gallbladder gets overwhelmed with bile and abnormally releases it in great amount which makes us throw it up. This explains why people may not have bad hangovers if they ate while drinking, so try not drinking on empty stomach to test this.
I also think the body metabolises alcohol at different stages leaving the hardest bad toxins to process for the end. These final stages of the process may cause the extra bile flow and thus the condition. Therefore, if you start drinking the next day again :) you may move back the metabolitic process to an earlier stage, stop the increased bile flow, and not get the condition. Any volunteers to try this? :)
Anyway, I generally try eating healthily and if I go out for a social drink I do not do it on empty stomach. I also try not to drink excessively and not to mix types of liquor (the more you mix liquors, the more bad toxins you put in the system). This way I seem to be able to prevent the "hangover".
Also DONT DRINK REDBULL! At first it looked like it helps me have less hangovers until I got shortness of breath one day and some pain in the gallbladder area. It may be something that only adds to the problem.
I am interested to know what you guys think?
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Same thing has happened to me since 2008. The only correlation is i began drinking vodka instead of whiskey. Dont like beer.
It has happened 5 times since then but the only thing I notice unlike most is it occurs when i drink alot. Im not a heavy drinker i drink occasionally and only when i drink heavy does this happen.
The person that suggested slow gastric emptying of our stomach might be correct.
It happened to me this last weekend i drank to much, i woke up at 1pm and was still drunk, at 5 pm the sickness started like a hangover would for the next 12 hours. I was worried its a liver problem since liver is important to empty toxins.
The only other thing beside drinking vodka since this happened was i drank alot, and i did not eat much that day.
I dont know what to make of it. I vomit bile and have all the symptoms you guys listed but you guys get it when you drink small amounts, this has not happened to me yet (fingers crossed)
It has happened 5 times since then but the only thing I notice unlike most is it occurs when i drink alot. Im not a heavy drinker i drink occasionally and only when i drink heavy does this happen.
The person that suggested slow gastric emptying of our stomach might be correct.
It happened to me this last weekend i drank to much, i woke up at 1pm and was still drunk, at 5 pm the sickness started like a hangover would for the next 12 hours. I was worried its a liver problem since liver is important to empty toxins.
The only other thing beside drinking vodka since this happened was i drank alot, and i did not eat much that day.
I dont know what to make of it. I vomit bile and have all the symptoms you guys listed but you guys get it when you drink small amounts, this has not happened to me yet (fingers crossed)
I have the EXACT same thing happen. Even if I just drink three or four drinks I will feel horrible the next day and vomit yellow stuff for hours. I will also have cold sweats and feel shake-y and sometimes my hands and arms will go numb. It's really terrible; I don't know why I continue to drink. For some reason I think that it won't happen 'this time' but it always does. I usually feel sick until anywhere between 4 and 9pm the next day. I have no idea what it is but it started around my sophomore year of college (about the same time I became a vegetarian). I never throw up that night, only the morning after. Could we be allergic to something produced when our bodies metabolize alcohol?
I don't share the problem but have known a couple of guys who used to be able to drink like a fish and now only need a couple of drinks and they are incoherent, not sure if they vomit as well. I've spoken to a couple of people I know who go to AA and apparently it's not uncommon for alcoholics. It's interesting that many of you still drink when your body is obviously telling very loudly to stop. Makes you wonder.
I've recently had 3 alcoholics in my life and only one was smart enough to realise he had to do something and put himself in rehab, he's nearly a year clean now and has turned his whole life around. The other 2 are still self medicating but it only eases their misery for a short time and then it makes it much worse. strange how the thing that once eased their pain now makes them miserable & has destroyed there lives, both have no friends, their family's no longer have anything to do with them and are the loneliest unhappiest people I've ever met.
I've recently had 3 alcoholics in my life and only one was smart enough to realise he had to do something and put himself in rehab, he's nearly a year clean now and has turned his whole life around. The other 2 are still self medicating but it only eases their misery for a short time and then it makes it much worse. strange how the thing that once eased their pain now makes them miserable & has destroyed there lives, both have no friends, their family's no longer have anything to do with them and are the loneliest unhappiest people I've ever met.
My experiences are steering us to the cause, in some cases, being something to do with reduction in functionality of the liver as suggested by one poster.
Had the problem of serious repeat sickness if I got drunk when younger, 18-30. Now, on some occasions, I get the same symptoms you all describe but the alcohol input can be as little as 2 glasses of wine or even 1 beer. I get all the pain but mainly I don't get anything other than mildly intoxicated, so no "gain". But it is not the same all the time, so sometimes I can have a bottle of wine with my wife and be ok the next day, on other occasions its like I have swallowed the poison bottle - break out the stomach pump quick. Red white, no causal link, just random.
Male - mid 50's
Non-smoker, good diet, rigorous exercise for over 1 hour every day, not a large consumer of alcohol. Weekly intake 1/2 a bottle of wine or 3 beers. Perhaps 6 times a year a modest increase to double or triple this quantity in a week. This has been the case for 20 years.
Prior to that, about the same with more occasions when I would take more. I was not overly tolerate then. 7 pints of beer and I would be sick, whilst others could consume 10 or more. 6 and I would not be sick but would have the mother of a hangover. At 4 or 5 at least I could get to the line of being quite merry and not ill the next day.
So, unless somebody tells me otherwise, I don't think I have an alcohol addiction problem.
I liked the idea about stress effecting liver functionality. Wow am I stressed at work right now. And for the last 3 years it has been on and off - colossal . Also a very close relative very ill. Had a few drinks last night and just had the equal worse day of my life for being sick. I didn't go to bed drunk and I got up okish, dry mouth mild head-ache but not sick. 40 minutes after getting up it was like I was a student again on the day after my first ( and last ) pub crawl. I felt I could get rid of my work stress with vigorous exercise and a healthy lifestyle. I last had a day off work 13 years ago, but something has obviously changed in my body in terms of processing alcohol and that change is not permanent, e.g some weeks ok and some weeks not so.
OK so solution - when stress at work and elsewhere ramps up - steer clear of the booze. Nothing - tough - until I can exit the job with stress, I need to recognise what changes in lifestyle I need to put in place around it. At times of lower stress - 1 glass of wine - strict. Whatever is left after my wife's share, goes down the drain. Consume more only when I recognise stress levels are much lower. Lesson for self - consuming alcohol does not temporarily wash away the effects of stress, like it used to - my body plays tricks with me and makes them worse - sometimes !
Final point, reading all your posts, I only saw one touching on the easing route I have taken. The bile is coming up. It takes the lining off the esophagus, it makes your teeth feel really weird. It takes days to grow back the lining and be able to eat a meal or consume any drink and be "normal". Can't stop the bile coming up, but can make it easier and have no short term after effects. You are sick the first time. Straight away after being sick, drink 500ml of cold water. You might be sick straight away again. More water straight away afterwards. Again. Then you have the 15 to 30 minute period before you are sick again. You are sick, a powerful jet of diluted bile comes out, probably in two goes. Then you wretch a little. As soon as you can during this wretching period, consume 500ml of cold water. You stop wretching and you have 15 - 30 minutes before the cycle starts again. The volume of sick increases massively but it comes out easily and your esophagus is not burnt. The periodicity seems to be quite constant and then at the end, when suddenly after the 15-30 min period you are not sick, you know you are at the end of the torture. I find I can function fairly well for that period from drinking the water to within about 30 seconds of needing to be sick again. Powers of concentration are not 100% but I am fully functional on low level type activities. What was that box of stuff that I had been putting off sorting out, or a drawer to re-order. I just make sure I am not too far away from a toilet or entirely empty sink. I can have a day in which I get a lot more done than if I lie in bed feeling sorry for myself and asking - why me? Don't eat anything during this period, it just comes up with the next lot of diluted bile. Have lots of clothing to hand that you can easily put on and take off as you go hot and cold.
Believe me I have had some serious experiences of being sick these last 3 years. This is as easy as I can make it.
Loved the idea of the poster - staying in the shower for several hours !!!( I would have been there for 5 hours today - my electricity supply company would have loved me!) Com'on darling, we inflicted it on ourselves. Its not nice, its not fair, its not happening to others but we just have to deal with it. No silver bullet exists. Sick down the toilet, glass of water, quick shower, get dressed, nice warm jumper on and get doing something that you can do right now - clear out that cutlery drawer, polish those shoes, take out the rubbish, whatever. Going "back to the womb" we can leave for the time when we will value it.
I hated today. It is a Sunday, I have a massive amount of work to do to make others functional at work this week and I have been low grade functional. Reading this forum has perhaps allowed me to see a way of reducing the risk of me experiencing another day like today. My only return is offering my experience to others on easing the symptoms. I hope some find it useful.
Had the problem of serious repeat sickness if I got drunk when younger, 18-30. Now, on some occasions, I get the same symptoms you all describe but the alcohol input can be as little as 2 glasses of wine or even 1 beer. I get all the pain but mainly I don't get anything other than mildly intoxicated, so no "gain". But it is not the same all the time, so sometimes I can have a bottle of wine with my wife and be ok the next day, on other occasions its like I have swallowed the poison bottle - break out the stomach pump quick. Red white, no causal link, just random.
Male - mid 50's
Non-smoker, good diet, rigorous exercise for over 1 hour every day, not a large consumer of alcohol. Weekly intake 1/2 a bottle of wine or 3 beers. Perhaps 6 times a year a modest increase to double or triple this quantity in a week. This has been the case for 20 years.
Prior to that, about the same with more occasions when I would take more. I was not overly tolerate then. 7 pints of beer and I would be sick, whilst others could consume 10 or more. 6 and I would not be sick but would have the mother of a hangover. At 4 or 5 at least I could get to the line of being quite merry and not ill the next day.
So, unless somebody tells me otherwise, I don't think I have an alcohol addiction problem.
I liked the idea about stress effecting liver functionality. Wow am I stressed at work right now. And for the last 3 years it has been on and off - colossal . Also a very close relative very ill. Had a few drinks last night and just had the equal worse day of my life for being sick. I didn't go to bed drunk and I got up okish, dry mouth mild head-ache but not sick. 40 minutes after getting up it was like I was a student again on the day after my first ( and last ) pub crawl. I felt I could get rid of my work stress with vigorous exercise and a healthy lifestyle. I last had a day off work 13 years ago, but something has obviously changed in my body in terms of processing alcohol and that change is not permanent, e.g some weeks ok and some weeks not so.
OK so solution - when stress at work and elsewhere ramps up - steer clear of the booze. Nothing - tough - until I can exit the job with stress, I need to recognise what changes in lifestyle I need to put in place around it. At times of lower stress - 1 glass of wine - strict. Whatever is left after my wife's share, goes down the drain. Consume more only when I recognise stress levels are much lower. Lesson for self - consuming alcohol does not temporarily wash away the effects of stress, like it used to - my body plays tricks with me and makes them worse - sometimes !
Final point, reading all your posts, I only saw one touching on the easing route I have taken. The bile is coming up. It takes the lining off the esophagus, it makes your teeth feel really weird. It takes days to grow back the lining and be able to eat a meal or consume any drink and be "normal". Can't stop the bile coming up, but can make it easier and have no short term after effects. You are sick the first time. Straight away after being sick, drink 500ml of cold water. You might be sick straight away again. More water straight away afterwards. Again. Then you have the 15 to 30 minute period before you are sick again. You are sick, a powerful jet of diluted bile comes out, probably in two goes. Then you wretch a little. As soon as you can during this wretching period, consume 500ml of cold water. You stop wretching and you have 15 - 30 minutes before the cycle starts again. The volume of sick increases massively but it comes out easily and your esophagus is not burnt. The periodicity seems to be quite constant and then at the end, when suddenly after the 15-30 min period you are not sick, you know you are at the end of the torture. I find I can function fairly well for that period from drinking the water to within about 30 seconds of needing to be sick again. Powers of concentration are not 100% but I am fully functional on low level type activities. What was that box of stuff that I had been putting off sorting out, or a drawer to re-order. I just make sure I am not too far away from a toilet or entirely empty sink. I can have a day in which I get a lot more done than if I lie in bed feeling sorry for myself and asking - why me? Don't eat anything during this period, it just comes up with the next lot of diluted bile. Have lots of clothing to hand that you can easily put on and take off as you go hot and cold.
Believe me I have had some serious experiences of being sick these last 3 years. This is as easy as I can make it.
Loved the idea of the poster - staying in the shower for several hours !!!( I would have been there for 5 hours today - my electricity supply company would have loved me!) Com'on darling, we inflicted it on ourselves. Its not nice, its not fair, its not happening to others but we just have to deal with it. No silver bullet exists. Sick down the toilet, glass of water, quick shower, get dressed, nice warm jumper on and get doing something that you can do right now - clear out that cutlery drawer, polish those shoes, take out the rubbish, whatever. Going "back to the womb" we can leave for the time when we will value it.
I hated today. It is a Sunday, I have a massive amount of work to do to make others functional at work this week and I have been low grade functional. Reading this forum has perhaps allowed me to see a way of reducing the risk of me experiencing another day like today. My only return is offering my experience to others on easing the symptoms. I hope some find it useful.
So I have this problem too and I have a theory: I used to get this issue more when I was on estrogen birth control pills. Then I switched to progesterone only and stopped having these hangovers. Also when I wasn't on any birth control I didn't get this issue. Now I'm back on birth control pills with estrogen in them and this morning (after two months back on the pill) I had the bile vomiting issue... Miss half a day of work. It was awful. Anyone else on birth control pills? I'm convinced there is a connection. My doctors have never been able to confirm or deny it. If it happens again I'm going off the pill and back on crappy progesterone only pills!
Well, I am relieved to see I'm not the only one. I think I will send my friends a link to this page as I am certain they don't believe my hangovers are for real! If I have to listen to another person telling me I'll feel much better if I get up and do something, I'll not be responsible for my actions! I have been drinking since I was 14 - only ever at weekends and nowadays not even that often. I wonder if the drinking from an early age has something to do with it? I noticed quite a few people mentioned they started young? Anyway, I can't add anything that hasn't already been said, but I will keep an eye on this string in the hope someone comes up with the answer!! I am 28 and was vomiting from 11am yesterday until midnight. I don't always get that ill (but I am sick 70% of the time the following day), but I have NEVER felt hangover free after a drink the night before. I know I should just stop drinking but I don't particularly like my mates when they are drunk and I am sober!! I have also just gone back to uni so it's hard enough trying to fit in being the old one on campus!
Oh, RE the birth control, I have been on various types and have never noticed any difference. Don't get bother with acid reflux either. Surely someone somewhere is carrying out some research in this field? If not, I might switch degrees and carry out some research of my own....
Oh, RE the birth control, I have been on various types and have never noticed any difference. Don't get bother with acid reflux either. Surely someone somewhere is carrying out some research in this field? If not, I might switch degrees and carry out some research of my own....
Yep. This is the same exact thing I experience. I never know when it's going to happen. I could have one drink of wine or mix alcohol - but never more then 4 drinks over the course of 5 hours. I need a remedy of some sort. I have noticed soldiers and preservatives in wine can trigger this awful experience. Is there truth to that? I usually stick to vodka and soda and will be ok. It has to be very simple and if I drink water in between it helps. So, what's the remedy besides not drinking??? It only happens now Once a year after a really fun night out and then I pay! I either get congested immediately - very stuffy and complain I can't breathe Or wake up 2-4 hours after coming home with the sweats. It comes out of both ends not to be gross and begins to burn after a few hours. I guess the acid is eating away :-(. It so sucks! I feel like its probably tearing up my insides. I feel shooting pains and I'm like passing out in btwn...it starts in :15 minute intervals or :30 minute intervals. I know exactly what's going on and I don't like anyone near me when it's happening. :-(
Remedy I found to help a little:
Gatorade on your way home from drinking!!! Helps with the terrible acid taste in the mouth
Water while your drinking
A nexium or protonix Rx
Nasal squirt of nasanex to help with the congestion
Saltine crackers if you can
However I do feel anything I ingest with this going on comes up immediately
There has to be a better answer. And I'm happy to see I'm not alone although I wish no one had it. But I think it is alcohol intolerence.
Remedy I found to help a little:
Gatorade on your way home from drinking!!! Helps with the terrible acid taste in the mouth
Water while your drinking
A nexium or protonix Rx
Nasal squirt of nasanex to help with the congestion
Saltine crackers if you can
However I do feel anything I ingest with this going on comes up immediately
There has to be a better answer. And I'm happy to see I'm not alone although I wish no one had it. But I think it is alcohol intolerence.
I also share a similar problem. I'm 20 and I used to be able to drink most people under the table. But about three months ago my life took a 180. I can't drink much of anything without throwing up. Sometimes the night I drink, sometimes the morning after. Sometimes I get well quickly, sometimes I feel bad for a couple days. I recently discovered that wine doesn't upset my stomach as badly. So, I've started drinking wine and nothing else. My doctor has done x-rays and untrasounds. He finally decided at my last appointment that he thinks I may have an issue with my gall bladder. I have had upper stomach pain... but it felt more like an ulcer than anything else... but the ultrasound showed no ulcer. After reading up on gallbladder disease, I learned that gallbladder issues are often irritated by greasy or fried foods... but I don't have that problem. I can seem to eat anything I want, though sometimes I don't feel well afterwards. I never could seem to associate it with any certain food though. I don't know. I would love to hear if anyone found a solution to their problem! This is miserable. 20 years old and can't drink. No fun.
Well guys maybe I can help... When I was 18 and all through my 20's I used to get real sick the next day and vomit every 20 min, sometimes just
spasm over and over it was pur toture! later got diagosed with irritable bowel...but come to find out my real problems I was allergic to alot
of things. The wheat and barley in beer was severly making me sick. Sometimes I would even get a small rash on my chest. I am allergic to milk, I can't eat any gluten either. Onace I have eliminated all these things....I no longer have asthma...seasonal allergies or migraine headaches. But I am ruined for life with alcohol! The only thing I can drink with no sickness is white merlot wine by sutter home. Hope this helps my friends! Good luck!
I dont feel 2 bad the day after, but the day after that i can feel ill for up to 2 weeks, thats even if i only have 2 pint, its as though it strips the lining off my gut, its ruining my life as i wont socialize anymore. I start off with a foul taste in my mouth, then feeling sick and bloated for days and days its horrible , and also get a severe bout of diarrea after a few days wtf could it be , im on ant depressants for it and the lot. + the nexium and omeprazole and gaviscon ive took for nearly 6 years dunt help me 1 little bit. I
I have the same problem.. I used to be able to drink lots without getting a hangover, until I was about 20, then I started getting sick. last time I tried to drink I had three drinks over a whole evening, and from about 5am the next morning I started throwing up, and continued to every 30 minutes until about 2pm. I've been to the doctor and one Dr put me on anti-acid tablets for 3 months, that helped as there was a stage when I couldn't have even a single drink without throwing up. However it hasn't gotten me past the 3 drink limit. I've been to other doctors who just tell me that some people can't drink. It appears that nobody really knows why it is happening, but it sure sucks when you're the only one out of all of your friends who can't drink :(