Changing your own expectations is much easier. Keep in mind if he is not interested in sex, he is probably posting on another forum that his wife is crazy about sex, wants it all the time, and he can never satisfy her. It seems he has attempted to try and meet your needs, as you say "we will do it get yours and were done sorry no romance lets just do it." However, this is not what you want, and caused you more disappointment.
By changing your expectations, I am not suggesting that you should "deal with it" or "settle". However, keep in mind that it is your own expectations that cause your disappointments. This is true in any aspect of your life. You expect a raise at work, or you expect your child to do their chores, expect that the car will run without problems. When these things do not happen as you thought they would, you are going to be disappointed. By having these expectations it seems that we are always setting ourselves up for disappointment.
I'm not saying you should not have any expectations. But the expectations you do have should be agreeable and mutual between your partner. When you have different expectations, those should be examined carefully, as both parties are going to be disappointed.
Him masturbating, in the end, has nothing to do with his sexual desire, or lack of sexual desire for you. He has not replaced intimacy with you with masturbation. You were quite adamant that he is not homosexual, which is great. Not that he is or is not, but often times I hear, my partner does not want to have sex with me, that must mean he is homosexual. Not likely.
Your marriage sounds like it is doing well. Lots of fun, play, communication, and things are well. The only shortfall you mention is the different levels of sexual desires, and expectation of what it should be by the both of you.
Ultimately, the solution you come to has to come between you and your husband. What can he do to compromise. What can you do to compromise, and work towards the common goal of helping each other attain the personal happiness you both desire and deserve.
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Ruling out any health problems, besides the low T, which you said there is a problem with, it still goes back to expectation. You expect that you have more intimacy, he does not expect the same. So you both have different needs and wants regarding sex. Just like money, child rearing, any other aspect of life, when your expectations are different, there is going to be problems. Unfortunately, I have no solution for you. Changing someone to meet your needs and expectations are unrealistic.
Changing your own expectations is much easier. Keep in mind if he is not interested in sex, he is probably posting on another forum that his wife is crazy about sex, wants it all the time, and he can never satisfy her. It seems he has attempted to try and meet your needs, as you say "we will do it get yours and were done sorry no romance lets just do it." However, this is not what you want, and caused you more disappointment.
By changing your expectations, I am not suggesting that you should "deal with it" or "settle". However, keep in mind that it is your own expectations that cause your disappointments. This is true in any aspect of your life. You expect a raise at work, or you expect your child to do their chores, expect that the car will run without problems. When these things do not happen as you thought they would, you are going to be disappointed. By having these expectations it seems that we are always setting ourselves up for disappointment.
I'm not saying you should not have any expectations. But the expectations you do have should be agreeable and mutual between your partner. When you have different expectations, those should be examined carefully, as both parties are going to be disappointed.
Him masturbating, in the end, has nothing to do with his sexual desire, or lack of sexual desire for you. He has not replaced intimacy with you with masturbation. You were quite adamant that he is not homosexual, which is great. Not that he is or is not, but often times I hear, my partner does not want to have sex with me, that must mean he is homosexual. Not likely.
Your marriage sounds like it is doing well. Lots of fun, play, communication, and things are well. The only shortfall you mention is the different levels of sexual desires, and expectation of what it should be by the both of you.
Ultimately, the solution you come to has to come between you and your husband. What can he do to compromise. What can you do to compromise, and work towards the common goal of helping each other attain the personal happiness you both desire and deserve.
I thank you and agree with you. I have already given up what I want to at least twice a week please which he still will not do. I am patient and say okay so when we do have sex I would like forplay please be togather intamacy, nope none of that, so I feel I am giving up and making all the changes yes it is very disappointing. I feel like he is dead inside to me except his own penis. He is very much alive and plays with it a long time like he is making love with it and not me. What is up with that? No I am not wanting it every day or everyother day but hey I don't think twice a week is to much to ask. Now if he is with low t I have tried everything use this try that natural, chemical, spirtual he is like dont touch me. I will come to him wanting to play and he just gently pushed me away or starts up a conversations and moves away from me knowing I will be really mad by him pushing me away. I want to open him up but he refuses to do so. I am not pushy or angery at him I am trying. He wants to be loved and have someone in his life he just doesn't want the responsbility of having sex I just dont understand that. Please help to understand
I hope someone reads this. I am such a hypocrite. I am an attractive girl, with a high sex drive, who masturbates regurarly with or without porn. But i found out the other day my partner does the same. Now i know im wrong for feeling hurt, but i do. Im looking for help getting over it because i know he isnt doing anything wrong, i do it, but knowing he does makes me feel really down and un sexy. Please help xx
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I am not sure how to help you, but I am wondering how old are you? The reason I ask it seems that the younger you are and less experienced in life the more insecure you are. I can only go on how it was for me. I think that if your young first you need to know that the way you are feeling about your partner is that how you would like for your partner to feel about you finding out? I am sure not I feel talking is the best step lay all the cards out on the table let your partner know how you feel and explain why. The best thing during this time is to be adult listen don't interupt, make sure to understand completly and if you don't ask questions, let your partner know how you feel and what you expect, and I would say most important is be strong with yourself you have no reason to feel insecure. Your insecurities need to be left by the way side there is no room for jeoulsy or insecurities in a relationship it will drag you down every time. You will be the one to make the relationship fall apart with that stuff. Stop, open up mature and express, but it is practice that will make the relationship grow and be a more relaxed and better on for the both of you. Remember it is consitancy that makes changes and maturaity. Like I said I am only going on my life experiances and what works for me. I am sure there are many other views out there. I wish you the best of luck. Take care.
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We have had some heart to hearts. It sometimes works for a while. Once I said 'you don't seem to fancy me' - he said sadly -' I don't fancy anyone' and i still stayed - how sad is that? My feeling is that it is an emotional issue as well as sexual - extremely complex, somewhere back in childhood the 2 split, emotion and the sexual impulse and he can only manage stretches of combined activity before he disappears into the cupboard - where it is 'safe'. I haven't a hope in hell of unravelling it all.
To live with the feeling that to a large extent you are undesired and unwanted is crushing to the spirit. to know that someone who professes they love you but can cause you so much pain is one of the horrible complex truths of relationships. I wish I had found the strength to have left years ago, but unfortunately something about the way this situation plays out on the women emotionally makes it extremely difficult to leave - because it attacks and erodes your essential self esteem.
To any younger women here i would say I really don't believe this problem can be solved, maybe 'managed' to some extent as in my case, but you are truly better off knowing this is not a fight you can win. The sexual impulse is profoundly ingrained. Try and change it and you will fail. There is nothing wrong with you. face the heartbreak and change your life. Don't end up like me. With my best years behind me given to someone who couldn't/wouldn't cherish me. He is good in so many ways and lovely to look at which makes it hard - but he's like a poisoned fruit to me now.
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Thank you for your input greetly appreciated, and I found that a lot of what you said is what I was thinking. I have since have been able to get him to open up and we are now having more sex, and I am also happy to say he is talking more and opening up more. I am still having a few issues with understanding why is that he still masterbates as much as he did before. Yes we are having more sex but he still masterbates as much as before, so I am now wondering what part am I not fullfilling. Yes I know he loves me, yes I know he is loyal to me, I understand he needs space, I work hard at making sure to keep things between us and keep an open mind I want very much to explore anything he may have on his mind. I just do not understand why he wants to wack it more than be with me. I tell him please wake me up in the morning slide it in and gently wake me ( doesn't that sound so nice, sweet, and a shared moment with love) I would love that, but no instead he like clock work early in the morning goes to the bathroom and does his thing ( he does it all night long in bed or if he is really into it goes to the bathroom. How he thinks I don't know this drives me crazy I told him I know he does it he never says anything.
I wonder if he just doesn't care or like you he is thinking of other people because it's not me. He is like clock work every single night and morning EVERY DAY 365 a yr. Okay yes I do have my toys, but I prefer to use them with him anything with him. I find using them only is good when he is away and even then I am thinking of him only him. I am just tired of trying to figure it out. You say you want your wife to do more well he has it, but he just for whatever reason seems it's not enough. I understand men do this but common through the night every night 365 plus sex. We can have sex that night and go to sleep and then an hour later he is up slapping it what the hell. Now I feel there is nothing I can do to satisfy him how do I deal with that?
Okay, your wife sit down with her gently explain what your looking for letting her know you really want to do it with her, and like you said open up let her know it's okay if she feel uncomfortable, but let her know it's just you and her and you are not going to judge her but want to explore and share with her and only her. I also feel while you have her in a heated moment start introducing things slowly gently she will come around she will open her self up and enjoy and once she has watch out she will be on fire. Please let me know how things go. I hope the best for you.
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2. He is right, men will always masturbate all our lives.
3. Sometimes it is just preferable to masturbate than make love,
4. You wont change him. You just have to accept it.
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