Hey LL how are you feeling now? I'm at day 11 and improving, slowly but surely. My biggest complaint is my leg cramps at night. I doubled on the Mag so thanks. Running to the store soon to p/u potassium. I cant stomach bananas. Wish I could! You know I heard Kiwis contain a HUGE dose of potas/mag? too bad I dont like those either.
What else are you taking? I stopped taking the meds the doc gave me. Guanfacine and Gabapentin. I felt worse when I took them at night....and Im back at work now. Lord knows how. I am sitting here sweating, freezing, back hurting, but this is not as unbearable as day 3-6..I have to say each day gets better. I am loading up on these vitamins. B-12, multi, Magnesium and L-Tyrosine. I think someone suggested that here. I forgot what that one was for lol but look we're all trying!!!!
You eat and drink too and be well!!! Amazing you're in remission. You words have given me strength and I hope I can do that same for you!! Try to do light exercise whatever you can do. It really is helping and loud music therapy.
Take care & stay strong LL - Dina :-)
I am currently on 1/4 - 1/8 mg, cut down over the past couple months from 8 mg twice daily. I started in Sept. I am scared to death to jump off, my birthday is next Monday, so I plan on making it through that, then trying 1/16, then i have them cut to 1/32 of a dose. I also just started getting B12 shots in prepearation. Have you guys ever heard of someone weaning down so far? Or about anyone with B12 injections? I am hoping that this isnt horrible. I work at home, which probably sounds great, but its too easy to get depressed and not do anything. I also have a 4 year old and a boyfriend that just "thinks I need to stop it". Any assistance or advice you have would be appreciated.
You took 8 mg twice daily for how long? What did you do before? Curious? Can you get the 2mg and try to taper to those first? I'm just saying. I was on the 8mgs for almost 3 years but cutting pieces smaller and smaller over time and then doc switched me to 2 mg and switching from the 8mg to the 2mg was very hard for me. I switched to the 2 mg for like a month and I was irratable and dragged a little. Finally I decided I was done. You are very lucky to be home. I can tell you that! I dont know about b-12 shots. Who told you to do that? Are you seeing a doctor to get off of it? I went to an addiction specialist of 30 years who prescribed me Guanfacine and Gabapentin. I took initially and slept alot. I never had any sickness WD symptons people have had like "flu" and vomiting. I had NONE of that. I had and am still having physical pain and sweats and restless legs and insomnia and Im at day 11 no suboxone. I never thought I would get through day 3-6, but I did. Each day improves but Im not out of the woods yet. I can tell you that. I feel like I will feel better soon. I'm no pro really, not on Sub WD...I didnt do enough research prior to making my decision. It's very smart that people come here to find out what to expect. Whats done is done and I'm glad I did this. Its a HUGE commitment. At least it was for me.
And your BF needs to understand very clearly what you're gonna go through and not think its going to be easy. Im sorry I cant sugar coat it. I have a huge support system and I could not have done it without them. He needs to maybe read up on Suboxone Withdrawal and not think "oh just stop taking it" Its not that simple. Let me know. I'll be here for you as much as I can. :-) Dina
And your BF needs to understand very clearly what you're gonna go through and not think its going to be easy. Im sorry I cant sugar coat it. I have a huge support system and I could not have done it without them. He needs to maybe read up on Suboxone Withdrawal and not think "oh just stop taking it" Its not that simple. Let me know. I'll be here for you as much as I can. :-) Dina
I hope and pray everyone is doing well. Last night was one of the toughest for me. I had to work and when I got home couldn't sleep a wink. Legs are starting the jumping and aching c**p but Im managing. I know the toughest withdrawals are still yet to come. Im went 56 hours in between doses and after 48 i started to feel a little bit of the withdrawals. Good luck all and everyone keep each other informed, this is like my group meeting and i really look forward to see how everyone is doing
jeremy
Oh my GOD! I am so very happy and excited to have read your post!!!!!!!! I am in the same boat as you are but I need to try and quit again. It's been over 4 years for me now but the only good information I've ever got was off of the computer. I never ever thought to question my doctor about this med. Who would ever think something like this could ever happen. You are so very right about detoxing off of the vicodin without the suboxone. That's how my room mate in the hospital did it. I couldn't understand how she seemed so much better than I and she was taking like 50 Norco's a day. I want my old self back so bad it hurts. I've missed so much because of this medication and I'm starting to give up but after reading your message I am ready to try again! I would love to hear from you and what do you feel that suboxone did to you? I have a long list but just wondering what you mean by wanting your old self back. I wish you the very best. Don't give up! I don't think you will give up but just wanted to tell you that you are doing so well and you can do it!!!!!! Larsy xxxx
Hi. I've heard so many people mention this kratom but it doesn't seem to be something you can just buy. Is it something that is hard to get? I've been on suboxone/subutex for over 4 years now and almost ready to just give up. I don't want to live my life like this anymore. I've turned into a hermit afraid to do things with friends and family. I just keep looking for help. It seems like the only people who understand this are the people who are taking it or have taken it. Doctors just seem to think my dose is so low that it should be a piece of cake to get off of it. I was put in the hospital 2 years ago and was at 4 mgs. a day. That was the most horrific 13 days of my life, ever!!!!!!!!! I only got out of bed to use the washroom. I felt like I was dying but also was so excited because I thought I was going to walk out of there myself again. I couldn't understand why I never felt any better. I remember calling around for help when I got home and some place I called (a non profit organization) told me that I may never be able to get off of this drug. That is when I decided to take a 2 mg. pill (way too much for being off of it for 17 days). I was able to clean and do so much that day but I told myself I won't take anymore, well I did. Here I am 2 years later :( I am so very happy to have found you and Dina so far on this site! I'm going to keep reading but I wish you the very best and know you can do it!!!!!! I would love to hear back from you!!!!!!! Sincerely, Larsy1966 :)
Dina, thanks what a nice person you are. I have tried gabapentin before and I am not crazy about it. And I have heard it can make withdrawal symptoms worse, but who knows. I am on day 13 now without suboxone(although I do feel guilty about the relapse on fentanyl patches). I think my symptoms are staying about the same at this time. I am taking quite a few natural remedies, and I think that is what screwed up my stomach. So now, I am using kratom(I think I mentioned this once before) because it helps mostly with my outlook on the situation. It is not an opiate, although some say it may be addicting. I know its not an opiate, but it does have a 'happy pill' effect. So even when my body feels like hell, my mind is happy and optimistic. I also take some valerian root/passion flower remedies to sleep. The sleeping is getting better. I have some other prescription drugs from the cancer treatment, but that doesn't effect the withdrawals. I have read that L-tyrosine is best when taken with b-vitamins. We will all see this thing through together! Have a great night!
Hey Larsy I am glad I inspired you in any way. I got that from other ppl here on this forum and just am sticking w it. It sucks but I was just making a decision for my future. I didnt want to have to look forward to yet another year of addiction. I'm just doing it. I have like 15 strips left sitting in a drawer in my room and a ton of pain pills in the kitchen cabinet. It's a mind game for myself. I catch myself opening the drawer/cabinet and saying "F you" to it. DONE. Im going thru the Wd's and thats it. I look at old pics of myself and I look so much better pre-pills/sub days. Like so much prettier, healthier..life of the party and now I am more depressed and feel like c**p that if I travel, its the first thing I pack...the 1st thing I think of. If I forgot driving to work in the morning, i turn around to go home to get it and cant function w out it. I was like that w the pills back in the day. I would prepare my coffee the night before, wash my face and place my vicodin on my nightstand and set my alarm a little early to pop that vic to make sure I had the energy and will to get out of bed to enter the shower and go to work. That was 2008-2010. I've been on Sub from 2010 to 12 days ago. Never tried to stop. well I guess I did once in 2008 when I got briefly addicted to vic's and didnt have anymore and didnt know I was addicted and went thru WD's and was done & thought I was really sick but I got thru it and it was nothing like this. Vic WD was a cake walk compared to this. I think you should try and want to do it and stick w it. Its a huge commitment and you need someone to take care of you to get thru it. I asked my mother to take care of me and told her the whole story a week before. I told my boss the total truth like about the same time and asked for time off and he was super supportive. I am def really lucky to have had the support. I am trying to stay positive but if I look back when I first started, I cried alot and thought I was the biggest loser and what did i do w my life?? and depressing stuff. I have no idea how I got thru day 3-6. It was horrible. Im trying all the home remedies and take the advice of the ones you want to take the advice from here and some other forums. I didn't go the Kratom route. I checked websites and almost bought it but I called my addiction doc (the new one I just met in Jan) and he said it was addictive and dont do it. But Im reading that the blood pressure meds he prescribed could be addicting. I took the prescription pills he gave me the 1st few days but now I am going straight up healthy food, a ton of vitamins, a bottle of grape Pedialyte a day, and green tea instead of coffee and no energy drinks. I dont want the burst of energy from caffeine, then crash. Do what you feel is right for you. I push myself when I feel like giving up. I take alot of very hot showers. I used heat patches and icey hot patches the 1st few days. I take a lot of xanax at night to try to sleep. I am not having much luck w sleep though, but if that is my chief complaint at day 12, you can do it!! You just need to mentally push through it and you will. Are you thinking of doing it? If so and you live anywhere cold, make sure you have an electric blanket. I use that and a heating bad. Its like whatever works for you. That's what worked for me. I have no plans other work until late May to go out on the weekend and I don't care. I wanna be drug free (well suboxone free at least) this summer. I want to gain weight and look healthy, I lost way too much weight and its so annoying that everyone comments, "you're so tiny. how do you keep that figure?" I wanna say "pain pill and suboxone addition" My friends who know seriously wanted to get hooked so they could lose weight like me, I begged them not to and like had an intervention w one friend who begged me for pills and told her that this was no joke and this life is a nightmare. When i did take vic's, I sold them so I had a ton. My pocket book contained at least 10-20 to get thru my 9-5 job, and promotions because it made me a machine at the office. I worked my way up because I was like a non-stop machine. That was my secret to becoming the boss/supervisor of my dept. Its a long story. That was a long time ago, but thats kinda my story. I know ppl here say suboxone saved them cause they did H but I never did that. Ive done drugs in my life. Ive always been a weekend partier with other recreational drugs. Not like every weekend but growing up going to the legendary clubs in NYC, we did these things. I still do coke here and there but not not an addict. If someone has it, I do it and now its a few times a year. In my 20's, we all did coke every weekend, its just the way it was. Some ppl got addicted to pills, most didnt. I have alot of friends. I dont see them as much now. I guess I want to give the good news when I have it. I must have called 75 doctors in this state that were on the suboxone list to see if they accepted insurance. NO ONE DID, except for this one guy that was over an hour away. He wouldnt even accept a co-pay!! I just finally met the doctor that explained to me that I should never have been prescribed suboxone in the first place. I was not the right candidate or at least to try a taper method, He literally gave my a script of 60 8 m pills and I was hooked the moment I took it, I fell in love with the Suboxone feeling, Even better than any vicodin high. That was 2010. So anyway this new dcotor i just met in Jan 2013 sat w me for 2 hours & gave me a script of 2mg suboxone strips, that was quite a transition from the 8 mg strips that i started in 2012 from the 0 co-pay coupons. Once I realized he was right, the vic WD back in 2010 would have been my answer, not suboxone. He explained it would take months maybe until I felt right. He explained I would be re-programming my brain and went into all that. He gave me a medical lesson about neuro-transmitters and all this stuff. Read online everywhere and educate yourself as much as possible and go in prepared!! Set a date and do it. Not sure if you work but you need 2 weeks, not one. Hope this helped. I'm gonna try to sleep tonight, I'll be back tomorrow to check in. Dina xxxx
I am glad to hear you're doing well. I am going to pick up the valerian root/passion flower. I saw it on sale at CVS today. Should have bought it. I will tomorrow. We'll get through this together. Thinking of you sweetie, have a great night as well!!! dina
Jessica, I am totally wondering how you are doing! I want to help you in any way I can....seriously. How did your first day of work go?? I'm hoping well. I hope you're doing well. Thinking of you. Have a great night and stay positive. You can do this!!! :-) Dina
Try to get these vitamins that were talking about and eat and drink a lot of fluids. Take long hot showers. Maybe use the heat patches on your legs for the cramping. That really helped. You come here and talk to us anytime. Were here for you. For those who saw my previous posts on my ipad, I threw that out the window, haha. I was so frustrated w that damn thing, I could reply to each person the way I wanted to, but now have my laptop and computer at work and ill be here often. we're all here for each other!!! If i could do this, you can too!! I've been an addict w this stuff altogether for 6 years. I cant even believe that number!! All as a successful office supervisor at large predominant firms. Amazing how many of us there are, huh? I look like an angel...you know like innocent. You would never know my secret. Its almost over. I wont be lying on every date I go on, All 1st and last dates, No relationship because I would start off either a liar or an addict and I'm not doing that. Im never interested in ANYONE because I dont feel good about myself. I need my clean slate!
Good luck Jeremy. Hang in there honey, and have a good night!!!
Good luck Jeremy. Hang in there honey, and have a good night!!!
I couldn't agree with you more! I would love to join you in speaking out about this on a larger spectrum. When we get through this, we'll tell our story. Try to post more of your recovery and updates. I would love to know if you are trying his method. It was already too late for me because I had already set my date to be done. I would've done more research prior to my decision. Whatever. What's done is done. I wish you all the best and keep us posted, - Dina
It's readily available online. Just do a little research on brands because a lot of them are diluted. I only know of one or two that have continually worked for people.
HEllo Jess. How u holding up girl. I hope and pray all is well with you. Please let us know how u r doing. You have to want this more than anything u have ever wanted in your life. Just tattoo your thoughts in your brain on how much u want your old self back and keep that and let it motivate you. You are still a young woman and a few weeks of suffering is worth years and years of being normal again.
Jeremy
PS. If you believe in God I recommend praying daily Sense I have rededicated my life to him I have quit smoking,cussing aI'm most important this devil pill suboxone. I'm not done yet but I'm getting closer each day. No way I could have did this without God. I tried before and never even come close. I couldn't even quit smoking before
Dina was away I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!!!!! Jess hun just let us know you are all right whenever you are ready.... Dina I'm so so glad you are doing good and hell yeah dancing and singing!!!! I just messed up my knee on Tues. flying home I tore up my script and meniscus behind my knee bone and am in pain. But guess compared to being an active addict and wd it's nothing. Oh I am so happy right now!!!! I know all bout retyping SUCKS. Lots of Love and please keep writing. Jess you are in our hearts and thoughts!!!