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I was on subs for 3 years and tday is day 6 off subs .I managed to not miss work but let me tell you it SUUUUUCKT.I was smart and flushed all my subs down the toilet.Im not sleeping to good and my rls in not fun.also gettn blurry vision tday but day 6 so far has been the best day in this short span.I know everyone reacts differently but so far its not as bad as what im reading in these posts.I tapered down to .25 for 3 weeks before i jumped.I still think that subs are harder to get off than painmeds but they both suck.DRs should only perscribe subs for no more than two weeks its crazy that they can keep u on it for years and years its all about money .Even though i feel a lil crappy rite now its so worth the week or two of the HORRROR that we all go through ,but we gotta do it ,cant be hooked on drugs forever .I refuse

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oh my goodness my teeth too are deteriorating to the point that I have to go in on the 21st and have every single tooth in my mouth removed I have been a suboxin patient for the last 6 years and the longest I've heard was 2 months is max for patient to be on suboxone tell me whos screwed up here us or the doctors....anyhow despite the fact that my physician was screwed up and not telling me that he was no longer going to participate in the program I had no choice but to take myself off of the drug itself and I was taking 8 milligrams twice a day...its only been since Saturday of last week, but I can say on a mentality standpoint the longing for it is still there and it's probably because of the length of my usage. however and unfortunately I still have stomach tremors, sweats; all the good stuff that comes along with withdrawal. but I know it will pass it just the mentality of having to depend on something for so long to feel so "normal" and going without is the scary part. But and I stress but there will be a day that your body your mind everything inside you will reconnect itself again and we will feel normal. and I have to admit the withdrawal from suboxone is worse than any narcotic I have ever taken in my life! it be nice if we could sleep through it and wake up 3 weeks 4 weeks from now and feel somewhat ourselves but we can't because most of us if not all of us have responsibilities in one way shape form or another. one last thing I want to I guess testify to or put a testimonial on is never in any black and white fine print in any of the reports from Rickett-Bensicker regarding the drug suboxone did it ever say anything about teeth decay, so if you ask me that's a first class lawsuit. but despite that and all the legalities that come along with that because none of us have the money or the time to do that and they know that or maybe they think they know that because maybe there is that one person out there that will fry their asses for frying us! this drug was meant to help us not hurt us. it was supposed to be better than taking opiates but it is worse and people need to know about it!! I am sorry for what everyone is going through right now and for what all y'all are feeling I'm right there with you in the trenches but one day one day soon we will be able to stand on our own two feet without any medication just like we did before we started any of the BS! good luck and may God bless you all: May God please bless us all! take care P.s. it is a hell of a long way to fall
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I can tell all people I came off suboxone cold turkey it is hell it takes 90 days to fully recover I did it. as judge joe brown said on a tv court case you gotta man up its like any addiction its all about time day by day slowly. im sorry but that's it. you either want to be a addict or want a better life life is a choice.
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Man I'm on day 7 16 mg aday and maybe at least 4mg of Zannex we'll still feel like sh*t but it's not as bad as methadone it's perty bad tho I maybe got two hours of sleep this week hopefuly I get more this week hang in there pray and ride the storm out
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me too man...I wish my bf could get time off so we could do this together...he relys on me to share my script, because I have free health insurance...but I desperately want to get off them and have children, its so unfair...but he got me off the streets and off heroin/oxys and got me SSI for epilepsy, something I never would have tried myself, I couldn't work a reg job because offrequent seizures, so I was doing ameture nights at a local strip club, uggh everyone I grew up with and my family eventually found out...5 yrs sober and they still hold it all over my head...I was 16 when I started using, im 27 now...this shouldn't dictate who I am forever. Anyways, I now sleep all the time while my bfs at work, and every semester at my college I end up dropping a class...and im part-time. sometimes I hate my bf for doing this to me because instead of just helping me get sober he got me on subs, and im terrified of being alone again or in the same sitch. I'll never touch heroin again. I feel like ive aged and gotten kind of ugly since being on subs for so long as well as depressed and not wanting walk anyway (im not legally able to drive) idk if this whiny post will help anyone but it helped me to get this all out...my faggot bf is playing video games with a head set on, even though I just left the ICU from a 5 hour long seizure last night
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thank you for the post on tooth decay...Ive always been a pretty girl, but have bad teeth like my mother...plus when I started using I fell asleep early and never brushed at night gross, I know :( now on subs im not falling asleep until 3 a.m and am brushing twice daily (even if I brushed twice daily before subs if I didn't do it right in the a.m when I got up or before I slept at night they would still decay, be careful) now I have gotten my teeth white and bright again, I've smoked ciggs and pot 15 yrs, but even my fillings are wearing down! im very careful brushing, I didn't kno about subs doing that; just another reason I should quit.
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This is day 31 for me. I was on it for 2yrs and 2months. It is only a little better. Been taking clonidine like its pez candy. I wasnt able to sleep over 2hours a day until day 15. Now, I am still feeling like complete c**p.(restless legs, muscle spasms, overbearring anger, fatigue, suicidal thoughts, etc,etc..) I sit in the same spot all day because my legs are like noodles. Its like a life or death contemplation when I need to get up. I am so angry at the world. Everyone, including the doc said it should be over by now or it'll get better soon. I have tried exercise but it made me feel worse. vitamins, supplements, zzquil. Nothing has worked to take a fraction of the bs im feeling away other than clonidine. I was expecting a glimmer of hope for my future, a light at the end of this fn tunnel. But its not there. All I think about is getting back on it. I stopped because I get grief from my family every single day saying oh you dont need it, blah blah blah. So i started believing it. Maybe a little part of me did want to Not Need something everyday, ofcourse. Now, I believe I wasnt ready, 'jumped' from 4mgs. Still undecided on whether I will return to treatment. But for everyone else out there.. Good luck on this insanely taxing journey. And believe those people who have done it. Its going to take longer than what the doctor tells you.Period.

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I've been on subs for a little over a year now. Anywhere from a half to one and a half 8mg strips daily. I basically went cold turkey ( a few hydrocodone) only lasted the 1st 2 days. Right now I'm closing in on day 5. Same old stuff everyone else has. No energy, skin crawling, restless leg syndrome, my hair stands straight up on my head. Not to mention depression. I do however live a very healthy life. I'm taking a multivitamin and b12 for energy. I eat well too. I can deal with the depression. I just want to know when the physical symptoms will stop or at least dramatically lessen. Any input would be well received.
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Hello all! My story has been silent for 12 years and now feel the need to share after reading your stories. I'm a single working M om of 3, 2 of my kids have significant special needs. In 2002, I was in a near fatal car accident, met a Physician and fell madly in love, we were together almost 4 years. My recovery was long, most painkillers made me vomit but we found one that helped with pain and felt like I could start functioning again. Over time, I needed more and when I didn't take felt terrible body aches. Doc and I broke up and the worst withdrawals began. I read about bup and took myself to the bup doctor. I was now on bup and off vics. Years went by and every 6 weeks paid my $250 doctor visit, urine test, etc. we tried weaning down and my body aches were bad. Bup doc recommended that I stay on 2 mg for life. My bup doc moved out west 8 months ago and h gave me 6 months worth and suggested I find another doc. I decided that I no longer want to rely on these bups. It is now day 11. 

I have not had the luxury to take off from work, I still have to cook and clean and give my teenage daughter baths and get her dressed and take her to therapy and shovel the driveway. I spent almost 4 days without sleep and wanted to die by day 4. My body was in so much pain and my elbows and knees had scrapes from me moving around so much at night. 

I made it!  No, I may not be 100% but if I can do it without a partner, without NA, but by my will and in my faith in God, so can you!

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Hi! My story is a lot like y'all's. I've had migraines/ disabling head pain my whole life & been from specialist to specialist (even the so called "best in the world") without help. Made it through university, got a degree, worked two years, then the pain took over & still does. Currently, I see a pain clinic & after a lot of different treatments that didn't work, we tried Subs. I had no idea what it was, and in a massive effort to want my life back, I took it blindly. It was a miracle, up every day, helping my Mom with EVERYTHING...until I couldn't pee, didn't have a period for two months (def. not pregnant). I ignored them since I felt so good, until I started to have MAJOR depressive breakdowns (which I'm already on meds for- so shouldn't happen) Long story short, I'm 16 days off subs cold turkey. This is HELL. I'm now seeing a Psychiatrist for the mental stuff & on Hydro for my head pain, but this withdrawal is crazy! I never ever would have went on it if I knew this would happen. How long does the emotional stuff last? I'm still suicidal & even made a plan in my head but I'll never do it as long as my Mom is alive (I live with her- I'm on disability) A friend came off methadone & he told me that a spoon full of sugar three times a day, green tea, and getting as much outside time / exercise is VERY important. I even did an enema to get this sh*t out. I'm doing it all & it's lessening each day. Anyone know how much longer this will last? I still cry every day, though not as much as I did in the beginning. I just want to be me again. Thank you all so very much & May God Bless Y'all & be with you!
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Way worse than full opiates dam it!Get it straight already
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Oh my God I did nt want to here this about subutex been on it for 1 yrand6mths. @24 to16mgs aday I dont think I can make it thru another WD . I swear I ll shoot myself Please some one tell me somethink diff.
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Sweetie, first..Breathe. It's gonna be ok. It's gonna be hard as hell for a while, but it's gonna be ok. Please don't hurt yourself. I know that the thoughts are never ending, but in the more days you're off it, the less they're be there. Get some Epsom salts for restless legs- put a bunch in the hottest bath you can stand & soak as long as you can. There is a supplement called SAMe, that might help with your mood & joint aches. Take a BIG spoonful of sugar three times a day, drink a TON of water or Green Tea- it will help with the detox. Eat as healthy as you can- try to avoid caffeine. I was also told BBQ is good because of the charcoal in it. The charcoal will help with detox too. I don't know if you can get charcoal tablets or anything? Maybe that would work, too. YOU CAN DO THIS!!! Get outside as much as you can; now that it's nice out, the Vitamin D will help too. About the thoughts- reach out to people you trust. Talk to them!!! You gotta get it out Honey!! Someone you think will listen, a support system is awesome! If not, keep searching for posts like this. That helped me on really bad days. Maybe go to your PC Dr. & tell him what's happening? I've heard there's a blood pressure medicine that helps, too. Just don't give in to the thoughts. They're just that- thoughts. Hang in there!!
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Hey how are you?I'm day 7..... its rough man.are you any better?
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Hi,
That is normal for opioid WD, to fell ok for a few hours, and like sh** for the following hours, it gradually will change with time, and the hours you fell better will become longer, while the time you feel bad will become shorter.
Unfortunately, suboxone WD are a lit different, beside lasting longer, even if less intense, sometime you may fell ok for a couple of days, and then feel bad the day after, giving you the impression of going backward.
Hang in there, and exercise as much as you can, push yourself, i know its not easy, but will make you fell better.
Good luck, e don't give up, you can do it.
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