Due to serious accidents back in 1994 Ive been on all the pain killers on the market.using and abusing.after I couldnt get from my street connection anymore switched to herion(bad,bad,bad) snorted anywhere from half gram to gram dailyfor over a year.not going to talk much about the WD we all know the pain and sucidal thoughts that go through our heads.Finally made that final decision enough was enough pain or not I am done.Day one was a saturday with Monday a holiday. Made some calls to Get help call back on Tuesday I was told to start the process REALLY. I will be through the worse by then or dead.I am in my 60s not best of health anything could happen in cold turkey rehab.Got on internet looking for anything that might help with WD.came across the Loperamide thing and within minutes had 50 of them in my system within ours was a new man feeling good.Girlfriend breathing a sigh of relief shes been with me on the other times i tried to quit.Its day four still doing great down to 10 lopes and tapering off,
I am glad you found relief, I too take 40 to 60 OxyContin a day and was skeptical about lop., but it's giving me relief, so.
hopeful you will get back to me. am a 50 yr old father who followed the often heard story of injury to addict. taking 360 yes 360/15 300 per day. am losing everything to pay for them. please help.
really have no one to turn to and am becoming suicidal
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loperamide is addictive.
I was doing 150 mgs of oxycodone for about 3 yrs now and i have been clean for 3 mths! I took 15 2mg lope every 6 hrs for 4 days...then only took lope if i started feeling bad...after 10 days i didnt need anything...i felt no withdrawals at all!!! Hope this helps...
Although they say methadone is probably the hardest to withdraw from, all opiates are very uncomfortable to come off of. I currently am three days into withdraw from doing about a gram of heroin a day for two months. I've been battling my addiction with opiates for over five years now. I've been through detoxes, rehabs, and cold turkey jail detox which usually lasted about two weeks before I felt normal at all. I am glad to say I am going cold turkey at home this time, the help and support of a loved one is helping a lot, but you know that doesn't take away the withdraw pain! I've looked for several home remedies. I usually last about two days of trying to quit and out the door I go. Chasing that monkey! But this time I am very driven to beat this thing although I have relapsed every time I have tried to quit. I'm fed up with it. Well my point is I am three days going on four clean with no opiates, detox medications, or anything! This morning I didn't even want to get out of bed. I found the remedy of loperamide anti diarrhea medicine years ago and never tried it. But today was horrible for its getting to the peak of withdraw. So if figured I had to try something or I was going to use. I bought two boxes of the generic form of Imodium. Equate, box of 48 two mlg. pills. I took 20 which equals 40 mlg's. After about an hour I noticed I was able to eat I took a shower, and was up and moving around. I feel like I can get back to work tomorrow. Though I don't know of any side effects of the medicine in high dosage it does work to ease withdraw dramatically. I can't vouch for this enough it's amazing. Three days and I'm eating, drinking, all my uncomfortable feelings of body aches, back pain are gone! Still sneezing and feeling anxious but hell I can handle that! So believe me when I say from experience. This stuff works wonders! You can do it get your life back your worth it!
loperamide can work wonders if taken the right way. only take as many as it takes to get rid of 80% or more of withdrawel symptoms, id say start with 15-20 and wait at least 2 hours to see how well its working for you. if you don't feel it's helping much, consider taking 5-10 more depending on how much better you feel. From what I understand it is a close relative to fentanyl, so you can become addicted, and you can overdose. Only an extemely small amount crosses the blood brain barrier, so if taking way too many you will get the glowing feeling of any opiate. If you're looking to get high look elsewhere. taper down a couple pills every one or two days, and if you start going through withdrawels again, taper down a little more slowely. Consider using Tagamet with loperamide, it will help lessen the amount of lope you need to subside withdrawels, its active ingredient can be bought generic for much cheaper, i think it's cimetadine. But if you're using lope to get clean, make sure you sincerely taper down. Another suggestion would be use lope one week, and kratom the next week, keep alternating and tapering down till you aren't getting sick anymore, this will help from getting addicted to either one. Kratom is a little more expensive, but I feel it's worth pointing out. If you feel the craving to get high, both lope and kratom will subside these urges enough to take your mind off things. Hope this helps, addiction can be fought without rehab and methadone/suboxone. Stay close to people who love you and stay strong, you CAN beat this, not everybody addicted is a hopeless junkie, I would feel safe in assuming nobody truly wanted to become addicted, it just doesn't take much as most people realize.
Same thing, just different wording, spelled differently.
I have spent 1 year on codeine & morphine and 2 years on subutex. I have also spent 3 months of strict tapering from 25 down to 0 loperamide. & let me just say to everyone that thinks loperamide is a wonder drug.. It isn't and it's extremely highly addictive.it's apparantly a close cousin of fentanyl, however it feels more like an over the counter methadone script. Please head " my warnings people use with extreme caution.
How are you feeling now, since it's been two months?
Have you tried the Lope yet? It's a lifesaver if used properly and then stopped usually no longer than 5-6 days after first day of W/D. Get at Costco for best deal, 400 for 8 bucks.
When first symptoms appear try taking 20 2mg pills....that usually holds me off for many hours....later that day when symptoms creep up immediately take 20 more. Try and cut down little by little each day. After 4-6 days of this the symptoms of W/D should be mostly gone. I recommend only taking this stuff for the acute-initial 4-5 days of total hell period. After that I would just hopefully tough out the PAWS symptoms with OTC sleep meds, hot showers, light exercise if possible. There's definitely info out there of people who have replaced their opiate habit with a Lope habit I'm high doses which after a couple-few months has resulted in near fatal heart issues. But like I said for 4-5 days initially I truly think no medical effects will be felt. Most importantly it will help you function, be comfortable, and sleep. I hope this info helps.
When first symptoms appear try taking 20 2mg pills....that usually holds me off for many hours....later that day when symptoms creep up immediately take 20 more. Try and cut down little by little each day. After 4-6 days of this the symptoms of W/D should be mostly gone. I recommend only taking this stuff for the acute-initial 4-5 days of total hell period. After that I would just hopefully tough out the PAWS symptoms with OTC sleep meds, hot showers, light exercise if possible. There's definitely info out there of people who have replaced their opiate habit with a Lope habit I'm high doses which after a couple-few months has resulted in near fatal heart issues. But like I said for 4-5 days initially I truly think no medical effects will be felt. Most importantly it will help you function, be comfortable, and sleep. I hope this info helps.
I'm sure you're just trying to be helpful..but if you've ever experienced those first few "hellish days" then you would know that at that point you could care less about your health..you just want and need immediate relief! 30 year abuser here...yes - 30 years and the immodium does work!! Have been through way too many w/d's and wish I had known about this a long time ago. Good thing about it is the half life is at least 12 hours so you're not having to constantly re-dose which is great so you can actually sleep more than 2 or 3 hours! I take two 400 mg. Tagamet (generic will work) and start off with 8-10 of the 2 mg. loperamide TABLETS (no gelcaps, no liquid form) and once in a while have to to take 2 or 3 more tablets within the next hour. If you are in immediate withdrawals you will not have to worry about getting stopped up! I still "go" and then by the 3rd day I start taking 1 stool softener twice a day. Also..especially at night and sometimes during the day I take a good swig of Robitussin CF to help with that godawful withdrawal tickle in your throat that makes you hack and cough 'till the point of puking. Like everyone else has said..stay hydrated! I drink a lot of Powerade and water.
Everyone is different..there is no set time frame. Just get started on the loperamide and you will start feeling much better and then take more or less depending on what your body is telling you.
Everyone is different..there is no set time frame. Just get started on the loperamide and you will start feeling much better and then take more or less depending on what your body is telling you.
Soooo glad to read your post roaddog! I too have been down pretty much the same road as you for 30+ years. Most recently did a complete jump off of 6 years of subs and of all the w/d's I had experienced before, nothing..and I mean NOTHING compared to the subs! WHAT a big pharm mess! Anyways..that's when I discovered Kratom. At first I was like "Hallelujah! I feel great!" For the record, I am NOT condoning kratom at all. Unfortunately for me..just 3 months into discovering/using it it was banned in my state. I had no clue that was coming or else I would have stocked up. So here I was, once again having to make another total jump. Luckily, I read about loperamide but only after a couple of days of cold turkey w/d's and those couple of days were so hellish that I even considered going back to the sub doctor even after the hell I went thru with those evil pills! THAT is how bad my kratom w/d's were! The RLS is the worst along with sleep deprivation and sweats. If I did manage to sleep, i would wake up crying and hoping to die - not literally die but the hopeless feelings were so intense! Just wanted to chime in with you to say that you're right about kratom w/d's. They are/were surprisingly a whole different beast! Can't imagine how bad it was for you because I had only been on it for 3 months! Maybe someone was looking out for me with the state ban coming when it did instead of possibly years later. As I stated earlier..am not condoning kratom. If it was still legal here in 'Bama I would be a happy camper but thank goodness for the loperamide! Also like you said, not much posted about what to do about Kratom addiction so if anyone is in this boat..Go get some tagemet and loperamide and you will feel better. I've read different reasons to take the tagamet but one thing I know for sure is that it keeps the loperamide from giving you a stomach ache - not in your gut but your actual stomach. Kind of like the stomach pain if you take ibuprofen or anaprox on an empty stomach. First time I took 15 loperamide tabs w/out the tagamet amd my stomach was killing me. Just my own personal experience and two cents worth.
Hang in there everybody! At some point of the day (everyday) I say a quick prayer for every single person who is, at that moment suffering with withdrawals to please let them have at least a few minutes of relief.
Hang in there everybody! At some point of the day (everyday) I say a quick prayer for every single person who is, at that moment suffering with withdrawals to please let them have at least a few minutes of relief.
I know this is an older post - but it you still get notifications from it, here's mine!
Honestly, I've been researching ways to detox without the Absolute HELL Part, Forever.
Honestly, I've been researching ways to detox without the Absolute HELL Part, Forever.
Take Zantac 30 min before to get blood brain barrier taken care of I have taken 50 anti diarrhea pills at once