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you mean the withdrawal of methadone? By that u are correct. It is a nightmare and it is easier to get of suboxone than methadone.
I tried before 3 weeks to get off methadone in a clinic but I could not do it.
After everything i was trough i said to myself that I will NEVER ever go again trough that torture,I'm gonna take methadone for life. I can deal with that. Maybe it sounds shocking to you but I know what decision I made. I went almost insane in the clinic and was on 300mg morphium per day to not feel the withdrawal pain. Instead that i choose methadone for life. For me it's the same thing being addicted to methadone or suboxon,the fact is that you're an addict.
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Miligram wrote:

what do u mean by being much sicker for much longer later ?! Suboxon is a drug too,it's not less dangerous than methadone. Just because it looks nice a has a fine taste it doesn't make it like a ordinary pill. Suboxon is a new synthetic drug and period.


What I mean, Miligram, is that I've never seen anyone be so sick for so long off of any other opiate. I know people who have succesfully come off of suboxone, and it was awful, don't get me wrong. However, I've NEVER seen someone come off of methadone succesfully unless they were only on it for a year or less.... with the exception of Josh, of course. No offence, seriously. Don't get mad. I'm trying to give this poor girl some advice because I don't want anyone to go through what I've been through. Okay?!

Oh no Baby, I would never tell someone to go on methadone. My DOC was Oxie's....Oh, and wouldn't recommend suboxone. Tried that 4 different times. I know that there are a lot of people that are able to use suboxone to get off. But I have heard more that are still on it. methadone, likes to stay in your body and bones and it takes longer to get out of your system, as you know. Hope you doing good, Baby. My journey is up and down. Depression is still very much alive and still don't feel like socializing with anyone, and that coupled with (no motivation) ICK...:( Josh
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Hi Milligram, (forgive me if this sounds like I am preaching, just wondering aloud)
I understand, my brother never was able to get off methadone, all the way to his grave. That is the reason why I did not seek any drug addiction clinic help, it seemed he came out addicted to more things than when he went in.
I was going to say and addict is something else, than a person addicted to a drug, but really could not reason that out... I suppose it comes down to drug seeking behavior, chasing the next high and not wanting to quit, or making a choice and quitting or in your case, maintaining.
I think that methadone is just as bad as the drugs plp are trying to quit, in some cases it is worse, but for a lot of folks, they have no choice once they go down that road.
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Good. I'm glad we're all on the same page. Suboxone & methadone are all too similar. I was quite sure I was going to be a lifer too. However, the clinic went a little crazy with the dose holds, fee raises & changed my counselor three times in four months. Also, I was planning to leave on vacation tomorrow, but I'm a medical marijuana patient, which means 6 days a week. My friends all backed out of the vacation within the first month of my withdrawl, though. Ha.
I'm not trying to minimize anything anyone's going through.. I just wanted to warn The girl who left the ER with a list of methadone clinics and anyone else who might be reading that it would be much wiser to just tough it out now. I wish someone would've warned me!
Best wishes to you all,
Baby
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Yep,the bad thing is that meth stays in your hair,bones, teethes everywhere . I am doing ok..as far i can be ok. I just quit with my girlfriend so I'm going trough a ruff time.Thank God the methadone kills my emotions so I get easier trough the day. I asked myself is it possible to be in a good relationship with a girlfriend/boyfriend while you're on meth.
For me...it was hard...it's difficult cause they are so many things that should be done,but for an addict it's almost impossible mission to be a responsible, mentally strong person.,to love...
I guess that's why i quit with my girl. I think she deserve someone better,someone with she does not have to go trough all the frikkin things that an addict brings.It's very sad...
Please can somebody help me with that ,or give me an advice ?
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Georgia I am very sorry for your brother. You said it right,the painful truth is that people who were on detox from meth ,after come out with much more pills on which they are addicted ! That happened almost to me,cause while i was in the clinic I was on the sick dose 300mg morphine,seroquell,catapresan,phenobarbiton.The point is that I was taking 6 or more different pills which are very strong and addictive.After the 7th day at the clinic i started to protest. I refused to take the drugs anymore. They starred at me,they could not believe it what i was doing. On that 7th day,i took not a single pill in my body,I said to myself that's the end,i will not take any single pill anymore ,i would rather die than take their stupid drugs ! I was so strong with my attitude and mentally was only focused on that only thing. I refused to take the therapy in the morning and I demanded to speak only with the boss of the clinic (yes,the nurses and other doctors called him the boss). They tried me to relax so that I give up ,they used their medical and psychiatric skills to kill my intentions and my demands but NO ! They did not break me ! I was persistent and determined .
They let me wait for an hour on purpose (they hoped i will give up and crush ) .After the mind battle i finally went to the office were the Boss was sitting and I felt much more easier and was full of confidence.
I'll shorten the story so that people can read it easily , So i was confronted with the boss of the clinic and around me were 7 other doctors and some nurses. I felt like the f*****g Hannibal Lecter ! :P
After an hour and a half i FINALLY CONVINCED THE BOSS WHAT I WANTED AND WHAT MY INTENTIONS ARE AND THAT I WANNA LEAVE THE CLINIC AND STOP THE TORTURE a.k.a treatment.

That story in my Life i will NEVER EVER FORGET !
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Hey Milligram, that is one of the worst things about addiction, is we hurt those around us, its bad enough we do this to our selves.
I don't really know what advice I can give you, I do think that love is stronger than we think it is, that it s possible to be in a relationship, and go thru this, but it will take a lot of communication and understanding from both sides. Just you asking for advice shows you do care and have feelings! I would tell you to not sink in to a hole where your life is just the drug, USE THE SAME ATTITUDE AND DETERMINATION YOU HAD IN THE CLINIC!!!
I am glad you were able to get out of the clinic, they always plan to give you all this stuff, then when they think you are better just stop giving it to you, hell what do you think an addict is going to do? look for more or a replacement drug once they are out! I know a lot of them are really trying to help, but seems there has to be a better way.
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Miligram, That's really great. I'm proud of you. The clinic always does it's best to keep you there. You've shown a lot of strength. As far as advice goes, what exactly do you mean? Is it possible to have a decent relationship while going through this? I would say yes, as long as the other person understands just how much you're going through and loves you. What are you having the hardest time with?

 Georgia, Josh, how are you guys? Actually.. how is everyone? How was round two of dental work, Georgia? Stay strong, everyone. You're not alone and this will end

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hello everyone. Im going to be getting the kratom today, i think Im good today lol...had a damn migraine the night before that lasted til sometime last night. It was BAD!! I thought i was gonna end up in the ER with a stroke or a blood clot in my brain. It was weird cus for 2 days before my eyes were messed up and I was seeing these weird lights so apparently that's my migraine sign...awesome. I stayed stoned for the day and night but the pain was still there, just not as intense.

Miligram- me and my hubby detoxed together, we were the worst thing for each other when it comes to pills and enabling each other. It took us years but we  finally are making steps in the right direction.. We actually have had conversations and fun these last few days. You cant focus on what you did or didn't do in your relationship, just focus on what you can do to make it better!
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Hi Baby, I am doing good, I did not go to the dentist, as the insurance says they already paid for this with the first one :( so trying to figure out how to get this done, but good news is it has really calmed down with the temp cap, so I have some time. You doing okay?
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Thanks for your support.You are right,if if i could take the same attitude determination and be persistent like i was in the clinic my life would be much better.YOu gave me something to think about...and the clinics..when i hear that word my stomach gets uppset ! Damn,I'm so glad it is over!
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I forget to say that while you're in the clinic,u can not go outside.the doors are always locked and the windows has bars on it. like a small prison.
Thank you for understanding me,it helps me a lot. I think a relationship is possible but it will never be like a "ordinary" one. Because the loved one must go with you trough your pain,and cope with the addicition.
My hardest time was in that clinic when i had withdrawals, punched the wall with my fists until i felt the pain, i was pulling the radiator ,i wanted to get the radiator from the wall.

baby on how many meth are you now per day ? Have u eve been in a detox clinic ?
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I am so happy for you and your hubby :)

so you are now clean ? i guess you are taking at least some benzos to stay relaxed.
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I am telling you this to all Americans,because I wonder how it goes in the USA with the health service,it is well known that you health service sucks and that u have to pay for everything.I am from Europe and I didn't pay a single cent,they even payed me the traveling cost to the clinic.So,I'm asking you ,if I'm an meth addict and wanna go in a clinic to get off the methadone how does it works?
What do I have to pay and how much ? What if u don't have enough money ? I mean there must be a system where u don't have to pay...or not ? 
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Hi guys, just stopped to say Hello to all of you!
Its been awhile since I don't take any drugs and medications. Around 30 days. I am fine and I have adopted a small kitten to spend my time with it. :)
It is a great filling to wake up in the morning clean. Still have a headaches, but I am file. 
I hope you all get better!
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