Guys you both sound like the severity is relatively tolerable (considering) today and tomorrowshouldbe your peak WD days! Thats awesome. On a side note lol, FYI Im 28 from MASS.
Yah definately a to each their own type dealy lol. Adderrall doesnt give you energy or make you feel better b/c its a form of opiate. You just dont care about the WD's b/c you're on it. You still get WD's. I dont ever take Adderrall just for fun. Adderrall is ADD medication. You don't get physically addicted to it. It gives you the oomph you need to get everything done you would normally do and then some. Its not too much energy. Especially if you cant get them and are only taking em for a few days. They are a huuuuuuuuugeee help to me during WD and I hate other pills.
Done you do make a great point though! If someone is the type that traditionally has always been on something their entire life and replaces one bad habit w/another and you could get them when you wanted, they would probably be best staying away. Like say if you used to be "hooked" mentally on coke. Then you quit coke and started opiates. Then quit opiates and started drinking every day, etc. Thats the only time Id say someone should prob just stop everything.
John you said Xanax and other pills have never been attractive to you. Thats how Ive always been. I can get anything I want and I dont care to. The only pills Id ever wanna take a lot of are opiates and I even used to hate those. Adderrall is pretty damn cheap. Itd be like $30 and you wouldnt prob even take one per day. People that dont have ADD get energy from it. People that do, get mellowed out from it. Its gotten me through for the main first 3 days of actual hardcore opiate physical WD w/out barely caring about the WD symptoms and then I just stop taking it.
Okay so this is what I did I took 3 at 3:00 then 1 at 4:00. Still not feeling good. I can't take 4-5 right now cause I already took 4. Do you think I should take a couple more or I screwed up already by not taking them all at once? Hope you understood that FYI its 5:00 where I'm at.
I am 99% sure that would do it.
Some people take 15-20 at a time coming straight off 100mg of Oxy and all positive results. Since you were on such a low dose, 4-5 at one time would be good to stick with X 3 times daily. There are no ill effects from it unless you use it for months at a time
I did 3 more I think my milks sour yuck. Hope it works should have started dinner an hour ago and I still haven't done the dishes. Sucks being the mom through this my guy plays with the kids but try to get him to clean or cook not happening. I wish I was rich there is this ad on tv for passages Malibu a rehab for rich people and that would be wonderful right now to be soaking in a hot tub in stead of elbow deep in dish water :(. It's almost half way done though, I hope.
I feel so much better thank you so much! Got the dishes done took the kids to the store for secret Santa and started dinner all in an hour. I am 90% at this point wow. I was so close to using thanks for the tip gibson I couldn't of made it without you :). I feel like work will be a breeze now.
Stick with that amount 3 times daily spread out and for 5-7 days. After that point, drop 1 tab each day and you are done-Done!
It's sounds like a joke at first, anti-diarrhea medicine to curb w/d, but it really works. Even if you do get stopped-up #2, you could take a laxative on top of that and won't hurt anything. Just think in the 70-80's, this was a Schedule V drug and they dropped it to regular OTC med due to no abuse potential.
Once it get's circulated in your system after 24-36hrs, no RLS, anxiety, sleeping should be good to go. (this part I read about and have no experienced it myself YET)
I know 5 days is when it's all supposed to be over, but I am going 10 days and dropping it day by day, just to cover anything and everything. Even if you have PAWS (post acute w/d syndrome) take a couple and it goes away. Non-addictive, cheap and easy to get with no issues.
I found out about it on a whim and kept reading about it, glad we all went with it and works great.
Erin - you should try this too, it DOES work. Please try it out.
Yah I'm wIlling to try pretty much anything lol. Its only getting througha a wk. I personally don't mind using a diff non-opiate drug or booze b/c I'll never be hooked on anything else, I hate it too much. getting through WD is only exception. I'll def add it to my OTC arsenal.
Im "off the sub" for sure b/c getting the opiate sickness in morn. I wonder how long I shld try to stretch my pills w/ the potential long sub WD in mind. I had been taking it for 2 yrs so I def qualify for the never ending WD's. Lucky me! Although doing sub 4 two wks on, two wks off, past 6 mos I'd guess. I'd rather sell my OPs & make my $ back than take them. Although if doing oxy longer covers sub WD , it'sworth it. There's so many what if'
Working 3 x as hard this wk b/c next wk off. What to do, what to do.
It sucks all the worrying I hope you get out of your cycle soon. Suboxone is the worst but your taking so much oxy it sounds very dangerous. You have next week off I know it's Christmas but why not just quit then? Hopefully the worst of the suboxone is gone and the oxys haven't fully kicked in for real bad withdrawals. Or maybe switch to a less potent op and only take a couple a day?
#3 no op slept 7 hours last night didn't have to take anything but the Imodium. Had beans yesterday and mixing that with the Imodium bad idea. My stomach blew up like a ballon it was bad don't mix gassy foods and Imodium. Woke up with a horrible stomach ache but usually day number 3 is when the stomach problems start at least that's what happened in thepast when I quit ops. I'm hoping it'll go away and not last throughout the day. I have to work tonight and I'm a little worried I don't want to cave in.
I don't lie or fib, but I took them. PURE 101% compulsion. No time to think it was just happened within a dang second. Offical relapse. So ticked - SO-SO ticked. I have to wait until tomorrow now to start this WHOLE process over again.
What is the deal with me.. gez, I don't get it. It was like my brain wasn't controlling - just automated in grabbing them and chucking them down my throat.
So I guess this is where I stand. STRIKE ONE..
I was doing good there for the last couple of days and thought I was in the clear - home bound of freedom and this happens.
Thursday is my new day one - I WISH I didn't have to say that. Plus when I took them, I feel wierd over medicated med-head type.
I could smoke a carton of cigs today..lol gez
It's okay you f**ked up now there gone and you can't do it again. You don't have to start over your probobaly fine plus you got the lopermaide. It's hard when you see them like that the addiction totally takes over. Don't be to hard on yourself your still on your way out. Stick to the plan you got time off now with no temptation.
I just need this work day to be over with and look forward to Thursday.
So busy at work it's unreal.
to however wrote the big paragraph on getting off sub's and narc once and for all, and that doc's do recommend WAY WAY to much! please email me at
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I need more advice, and I found your post to be sooooo helpful. Please get in contact with me ASAP THANK YOU!!!
Gibson: I know I'm super worried about work tonight. I just want to make it through one night of work without using. I feel like I'm basically better but for some reason I'm not dealing with reality to well. I think I was on pills to long now dealing with being normal just feels like withdrawals. Sucks
I promise it will work. Take some extra with you just in case. It will work.