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actually its not dumb, this is absolutely the best way to get off subs and its the only way I succeeded. It's a little pricey being back on the oxycodone for a couple months but look at it like this, either you're not going to be working in that time frame anyways (not making any money) or use this method and work and still have extra money. I will admit the biggest problem is actually taking the bare minimum of opiate but be smart and its very possible. Sub withdrawal is an absolute nightmare and lasts months, and who the hell has months to take off work!? I was on subs for almost 5 years and this is what finally worked for me. Have someone else control your oxy use if necessary but this method isn't as dumb as I know it sounds. And is effective and a virtually pain free method.
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This board is great. my nieighbor is a er doc and gives me pain pills all the time and liquid morphine. we are having an affair and I guess this is his way of showing his love. he has me so messssed up it's not funny. i was thinkin about sub b/c i take 200mg of oxy and 40ml of morphine everyday just to feel normal. funny when my husband & him talk around the pool knowing whatz really going on. is sub good stuff???? i need off HIM and the medcine badly. his wife is sleeping around too, she talks about it alllll the time. she has slept with the guard at our housing edition and sad b/c he is a nice guy and works out allll the time. i might try him soon and get away
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To be clear, I never called it dumb. Just unsettling. If it works for you then great. But I can guarantee if you suggested this to any professional addiction counselor, they'd laugh or roll their eyes. It's what we do as addicts - we want to be pain free - all the time. The NA program is rooted in this.

"for we know that when we use drugs in any form, or substitute one for another, we release our addiction all over again."

I hear what you're saying about time off. I was on subs for 4 years and was fortunate enough to take 10 days off of work. The 3 months that followed were a struggle and it's only by the grace of God that I was able to keep my job.

Good luck to you.
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I'm honestly not sure how to comment on this. But welcome to the board. Sex/affection and drugs are often linked. It's almost funny to see the dynamic in a rehab center. The note passing - the hallway affairs - the little cliques. I can't even begin to count the number of people that I've known that have relapsed because of a guy/girl.

It's Does your husband know about your addiction? To answer your question about subs - it depends on the addict. I can only speak from my personal experience and say that I wish I would have gone down a different route. Either you stay on subs for the majority of your life or you detox off of subs which is arguably harder than detoxing off of opiates.

Take some time to read the posts. Ask around - make your own call.

Good luck.
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suboxone is the Worst thing you can do. I have been 5 years...have been off for last 2 weeks...although been taking other stuff to stop the pain of wd and the insomnia is unbelievable.  i dont care what else i have to take,,,but NEVER SUBS again.  Good luck to all of you and me as well.. IT HURTS DOCTORS!!!!

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Been on subz for 16 months and just finihed my program Feb 1, 2013. I have NOT slept more then one or three hours in a row since then. I shake like crazy and eye is twitching all the time. I thought I was going to have a hearat attack on Feb 5, 2013 and spent 2 days in the ER. They had to hydrate me and gave valium. Still cantz f*****g sleep.

I agree - subz are the worst thing ever made. My doc was a drunk and hung over in every 180 dollar visit I saw him. Dr Ley or DORN network - DONT f*****g DO IT. Out of Carmel Indiana.

Worst mistake I made. ALl I was freggin taking was lortab and pure hell since.
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I have been in Suboxone for 2 Yeats almost and this is my last month on my docter had me down to 1 mg and I went in to get my script and they said I was 5 days to early for pick up.....sh*t f**k....
So I got a couple dones until Tuesday.... Then ill have 15 2mg strips should I wait a day before I get back on the subs? Should I just try to get off in a week and just tough it out?
Please help
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I've been following this entire thread. I'm very pleased to hear you are clean, I too kicked the orange devil. I'm 34 from so.md..I've been off of them bit***s for like 11 days from 9 months of from 4mg all the way down to .5 mg. (took a couple of crumbs but they were old so not effective) I'm a moderate drinker and have been for a long time. Anyhow, the wds are bad from subs..worse than the pc addiction I had years ago..I hate these mother fuckers, they made me lazy and numb and didn't even realize it till now. I take immodium like Gibson suggested and it actually works..Thx..we all have to beat this demon and we will, many have. Erin: I'm sorry but you're just prolonging the inevitable. And done: same..stay off the sh*t.period..I'm pulling for you guys and we all have to pay the piper fro our abuse..I'm here if you all if you wanna talk.
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Glad to hear your clean. Stay with it.  [Side note : funny that they sensor the word bit***s but not mother fuckers]

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Thx jojo I feel almost back to normal now. I think. A little rls but not much, nothing a little benzo can't handle.
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Hey hey, yeah I know I am. i picked up OPs again a couple days ago. Idk why I keep on the merry go round. That is hilarious show they didn't edit MF! LMAO

 

Im so happy for you guys! Keep up the good work!

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OMG! I can't believe a bro posted from Carmel !!!!! I had the same docotr Dr ley - hell yes he was drunk or stoned or something man. 160 bucks every damn 2 weeks i visited that drunk bastard for a scrip to pay 240 dollars out of pocket. I said after 8 months, screw you and going back to oxy's and roxy's. Dr Ley and the DORN network - straight up certified drug dealers. they dont' give a mother f*****g damn about the patient, only cash. ALL damn appoinments are CASH-ONLY. Dr Ley / Carmel Indiana = should be put in Jail for being drunk on the job and stealing poeple's soul & money!!!!!! Dr Ley - f**k you!!!! Drunk bastard. Anyone in Indiana going on suboxone, don't do it. you wlil be screwed like I was. I quit using oxys/roxys 41 days on my own using the Condgon reciepe

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IF u have the sub strips, how do you split them up to do this?
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How do you do this method with the sub strips? can you split them? just starting researching & see now it comes in strips & no longer tablets. Thanks for any help.
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i trimmed my sub strips with manicuring scissors. That being said - it's a bit of a nuisance because the slightest humidity or damp surface will melt it.
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