Do not think you are alone...and its good to know im not alone. I've been a moderate smoker for a couple years now. About a month and a half ago I lit up a big hit and went to bed (to help sleep) and after laying there for a little focusing on all the sounds in our house my left ear started to hurt. I then started focusing on the pain in my ear unintentionaly because it was starting to worry me. Next thing I know it feels like my brain is hemorrhaging in that one spot and I feel something warm running through my ear. I suddently freak out thinking my brain really is bleeding into my ear. This goes on for a few hours with me thinking I was living my last few hours before I was to become braindead. Luckly nothing happened, but each time I smoke I get that same pain back and even the day after smoking I feel a swolen lump pushing up against my ear canal. My first thought was that it was my jaw swelling since I use to have lockjaw when I was younger and I know I don't open and close my mouth properly to avoid my lockjaw (which has become habit so much that I dont think I could stop if I wanted to). I also have a slight headache for a while after smoking and its really bad while I'm high. Just the other night I deciced I was done with pot after testing my reaction to a big high. All my joints started aching, especially my knees which felt like I had arthritis (I am in my low 20's), but this had never happened to me before. Its like ever since that one night things have been getting worse and worse everytime I lite up. After reading youralls posts it sounds the same for you guys as well, like it suddenly started out of nowhere one day and only appears, but gets worse everytimes we smoke. Noone I know can relate to anything I say, and they have been smoking most of their life (including elderly). I smoke for my crohn's and UC, and yes I know that crohn's can cause joint pain, but I have never had it before and for it to come out of nowhere at extreme intensity...why.
MJ caused very severe panic attack for me several months ago and instead of quitting completely i started smoking more and more and confronted it it was hard as hell but now i can resolve panic alack in a minute when it starts. the trick is just to put your focus somewhere else....
I was obsessed with my illness (fibromyalgia) and i was getting worse all the time, but when i accepted it and started behaving like im normal i am 90 % better and i dont even notice the symptoms........... BEHAVE LIKE YOU WANT TO FEEL :o))
yeah thats pretty weird i get the same sh*t. when i was younger i used to smoke weed and get all happy and high and love hte how everything was interesting and hilarious. but now lately ill smoke weed and i get really achey pains in the spots between my shoulder blades and spine. it makes my fingers feel kinda like i have high blood pressure in my fingers or osmething its like a coldness in the tips of my fingers. it sucks cuz i always wanna smoke i like the taste and smell of weed, its like cigarettes are to other people for me.
so the two things im finding consistent is either previous back injuries or stress for whatever reason. I was sledding one time and i saw a stick in the ground so i went to pull it out as i sled by, but then when i got to it i realized it was one of those concrete supporter pipes sticking out of the ground so i ran into it full speed with my back to it aha, that sh*t hurt so bad but it doesnt really bother me (unless i smoke weed). Another thing is that these symptoms didnt really start until after id gotten raided and had to move. I also had a really 'intense' trip on mushrooms soon after this so it didnt make things better. I feel like for whatever reason my body has associated weed with great stress. whether its for getting busted nad moving and all that or its because it makes my body realize whatever pains in my body I have. One thing that it makes me do is be aware of how bad my posture is. so i straighten up and it makes it feel alot better, so that could be a good explanation. i usualy just deal with it but alot of times ill end up stretching and giving myself a backrub for a minute or two until im not high anymore and the feeling stops. This is probably an old post so if anybody ends up reading this i think the only thing you can do is quick smoking and probably shouldnt do any other sh*t like mushrooms either (those made my back ache alllll frikkin night the last time i did them) try to figure out if youve injured any part of your back, and treat it, or try to figure out what it is that makes you stressed out while your smokin. and basically just straighten up your back or lay down to relax and massage your back in the muscles just outside of your spine on each side, those places usually help it alot.
This is mindblowing guys. I didn't think it could be possible that weed would do this to me. I love weed! But f**k, I have been trying to think about when all this screwed up back sh*t started happening. And I think it may be based on when I was smoking more weed. Every time I get high, I would feel some back pain. Not usually that severe though. But it kept getting worse. Again, not all the time, but a lot of the time I was high. Eventually I got so bad that I went to the hospital twice in a week. They gave me percocets the first time and I think that was a bad idea because now I just want to take them. Then they found out I have prostatitis and gave me an antibiotic for that. It was getting pretty bad to the point where I had symptoms like you guys describe above - really sore lower back and groin. So I don't know if it's the prostatitis that is doing this to me, or the fact that I smoke weed a lot more now than I did when the back pain started. What's the solution? Quit - cold turkey? I guess I'm gonna have to. This could be my last high. Good bye!
Here's a follow up to my situation:
I took a round of antibiotics for prostatitis and have been doing A LOT of yoga since I wrote this in February. Also, I've been smoking even more than before, witn NO BACK PAIN!! So the idea of weed causing the back pain has left my mind, but i think it helped in identifying it. I'd recommend getting to see a doctor and get checked for any infections or issues in the lower back. These can cause pretty severe back pain and weed may not be the issue. Good luck everyone!
OMG! i finally find something I can relate to regarding this matter. I have smoked for years, I love it, but ever since I got a herniated disk, when I smoke, the pain increases. I initially refused to believe it was caused by the pot, because I know a lot of people smoke pot to relieve terrible pains. but in the last days I came to realize That the pain does get worse when I smoke. In the past months, went to the chiropractor, to the orthopeadic, and to the spinal specialist. I got an injection on my back, it reduced the pain. During the day, I was usually fine, but in the night, after smoking, my back would hurt again. So I decided to stop smoking for somedays to see if I felt better. And I do. I still wanna smoke once in a while and I will see if this keeps happening. But this makes sense: if smoking relaxes your muscles so much, then all the presure is on the herniated disc. After all, the physical therapy pretends to strenghten your back muscles so the presure is not on the herniated disc.
What I suggest is to relieve the real problem. Fix your posture, goto a DR, work out ect ect
(warning super long post) (in a nutshell i loved weed until i had these horrible experiences with heart problems and pain everywhere especially ribs, and then after that i got sick and have stayed sick for almost 2 years since then, i others words i pushed too hard, and now the damage is semipermanent)
God, just god. I cant belive ive found so many people just like me. Its like an epidemic, we should make a coalition or something.
I have to give respect to all of your guys expericences but I have to say, I must be the king of this type of experience. Give me the pain award lol.
Now let me begin by saying that I used to LOVE marijuana. I mean I literally have a tattoo (my only one) that’s say GET HIGH and the formula of THC under it. LITTERALLY.
I smoked MJ for a decent time (1-2 years) from about 15/16-17 and smoked A LOT
When I smoked I liked it but sometimes it would give me major anxiety attacks. But im an extremely strong willed person so I would just push thru it and say it made me a better person. There are many strange things that have ahppend to me under the influence of the THC psychedelic, but after my longest stint of smoking yet, under stress and kicked out of my house living in a dump, I finally just broke down. Sometimes I knew if I broke tolerance levels I would have bad experiences, which got progressively worse, but most of my experience werew postivie I felt hungry and happy and tripped out, and heightened awrnes and all that, I felt proud of my ablity to stay calm under the infulunce of marijuana while others cracked or said no more, especially since it was such a challenge for me
I had been VERY fit doing insane amounts of weight lifting almost everyday, Bruce Lee esqe, I have never had pyshoclogical illness nor could even imagine schizophrenia, I had a couple highs wher I felt like iwas going crazy, and a couple where I hallucinated like shrooms, and a copule whre I was paralyzed for a few hours under the intensity of the fade.
My whole life ive had random heart palpatations that just feel like a little wake up cal or bump in my heart and I jolt then go back to normal
Ive switched between sedentary computer lifestyle and runnig and exercise lifestlyes.
When ismoked the only thing I really cared about as far as badness goes is I know that if I smoke too much without tolerance I will get anxiety and my heart willl race too fast and palpatate
So, I was on a trip with my friend and we were offroding in his jeep, and I had some vodka and then we got to the top of the mountain and we smoked, so we were bumbing around I felt like the bumbing made me feel kinda weird and I felt really bad, but kept suppressing suppressing suppressing like I always did, I thought maybe the vodka had made the normal high anxiety worse, but that was opposite from normal. We got out someplace and walked down tunnel in a ravine where I was feeling VERY bad now just dizzing and feeling like my body was betraying me I was walking and trying to walk it of but then the intensity of the nature of walking jhust made me worse and I tried to tell my firend how bad ifellt he just told me to drink water and breath and I was walking back to the jeep and all of a sudden I just SCRAPED this little metal corner, since I was a little out of balance and I serouly lightlty bumped this little metal post and all of a sudden it felt like I broke something in the region of my spleen and the terrors started then, there was all this pain and I started shivering and I felt near death, I became super pale I was feverish and cold and the pain started to spread from my spleen area also this entire time I had been having a weaker than usual heart and my heart had been beating really fast but now it was racing like it never had before I seriously think It mustve been going like 200-300 beats per minute but iwas super fit so I think that’s what protected me from going to heart attack right then and there
I wantedto go to the hospital but I get my mouth shut and just took it like I always do.
And that was that
Then I waited for a while and I was like… alright mustve been some weird panic attack.. even tho I knew it was and that my internal organs had had some weird pain attack or something and that It mustve been something damaging to my body.
So I was kinda like ill give MJ another shot I mean quitting isn’t really an option with me MJ was my lifestyle so I smoked a tiny lil hit more and it was the same thing all over again, everything spreading form my heart, going inhumanly fast, pain in that area, and now there werwe this traveling “worms” of pain that werew anywhere in my body and traveled around and caused super bad pain and I lterarly felt my muscles and tendons melting away so I was ilke oh my god im gonna die! But I didn’t obviously.
So after this my friend was living with me and smoking in our little hosue and it was always hotboxed and now it was like even the secondhand exposure casued me to freak ouit and feel sick, but it took me awhile to get him to clear the smoke out. A few days later I felt better and recovering, I noticed that my muscles looked difernt and that my organs felt different but I just tried to rest
I went to work and some days later noticed this sharp peain in my chest above my heart, I was like dammit hate when that happens and knew it would go away in a minute,,, but it didn’t,, I waited and waited and waited but the apin was still poking my heart so I finally ran back to my boss I was like I have to take the day off im having this horrible chest pain so I did and then later that day I started having tachycardia and my lungs started to hurt soon I felt like my lungs are filling up with fluid and that its hard to breath and I go thru a period of weeks where I degenerate from 140 pounds to a mere 120 pounds I have all these pains in my muscles and what feels like lung infection and sepsis and intestinal problems as well as some minor back alignment problems fevers and chills and I also had this peculiar taste that would come and go where it would be like I would get this extremely lucid taste of metlaic blood like I was literally drinking it the nit would disappear I never found any blood tho, also I would have problems swallowing and when I drink something it feels like this cold wetness drips out of my esophegaous and around into my lungs and heart and places and it became hard to breath when I ate and I would get these weird things where a part of my instesteine would inflate and twitch and all this space and air would flow thru like ablockage had been cleared and it got so bad I finaly couldn’t sleep for 3 nights in a row because every second was adrenaline pumped pain and fear and I literally could not doze off at all and I asked mky dad over and over to help me, he finaly took me to the emergency room after blowing me off for so long, they found nothing wrong with me other than some “normal” tiny little poke holes in my lungs I finally bought this herbal formula which I took in megadoses, I figured imight have a parasite problem so I was taking something called paragone, which has like garlic and stufl ike that in it, and it actauly helped a lot, which leads be to belive that since the marijuana raises cortisol and is an extreme supresent of the immunse system, which I later learned, ask me for the studies, I will provide, it also shuts off testosterone production, again, ask me for the studies, anyways I thnk marijuana causes an exacpterabiotn in underlying infections causing the now ineffective immune sytem to go into life or death mode causing massive tissue death in the body.
So during this time right before I got the herbs I latterly knew I was going to die, so much so I wrote my last words and will, and cried myself for hours in this extremely depressed fearful mode, realizing that I never knew what real mortality was before, and if I ever made it out I waould make major changes, but I knew it was useless, because mairjuaana had killed me. I still hold by this opion 1 and half years later im 18 now that I almost died there.
So I went into a few weeks of rehabilitation moved in with my mom started havin gthese strange pyscic dreams which my brother aggress with cus I told him my dreams. But that don’t matter, finally I was like alright I think im better ill try to smoke one more time (I KNOW SUPER DUMB) and I took one hit of kush before leaving to go cross country to the rainbow gathering, and I went into hell
This is the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life I wish I could explain it and all its symptoms perfectly but I just cant, it starts in my heart, with tachycardia, then there is warmth that is really pain and then it will usually be in the cartilage between the ribs which start getting eaten away then it spreads and I become aware of channels in my body I never knew I had, my veins feel like there are bubles in them, I feel roaming balls of evil pain in my body worming around eating stuff I go into super emergency mode prepare to die fight it off with 110percent of my entire being and feel as my body is literally atrophied visercally I litteraly felt my muscles tearing themselves down my bones going into weird angles I could litterl see how my body was changing and all of these I feel the pain everywerew and with the pain is atrophy, my skin turned yellow and so did my eyes when I looked in the mirror, I could barley think I felt the pain move up my neck and into the base of my brain where I experienced some minor blindness and tunnel vision and my balance became horrible, like I said I wish I could explain more but I don’t know how visceraly I want to remember this experience
Yeah go ahead and say I was just having a panic attack
Or that weed relieves pain
Or that it isn’t possible for your body to be eaten away that quicly
Go ahead and say that
But guess what im the strongest motherfuker mentally that I know, I can be beaten and tortured and not even flinch, I stay calm as f**k, its not a problem, I mean it is actualy, cus it’s the most horrible expreince of my life, the thing is the calmer I get almost the worse it makes it, I find if I act out with body language and massive uncontroalble twitching and maniacal behavior it is the only way to relive it
I found out there was this whole system, where if I moved the muscle it would relieve it, but if I flexed it it would be way worse, I wish icould reameber all the things I realized then, but I was just swaying and problaby looked like madman twitching and moving my limbs and joints and moving my muscles, its like all the parts of my boyd forgot what they were supposed to ddo and just give up the muscles stop holding , the heart stops caring about how it beats, the brain stops keeping away crazyness,
Anywho I wish I had before and after pics cus I used to be a buff as mofo I mean iwas always skinny but I was pretty ripped, but after that I was uber skiiny like a jewish death camp person, and my ribcage was permantley bent over like an old person, and all my connectivie tissue and joint wrew all screwed up and all my organs were in shock and pain and my intestines werwe doing all this weird sh*t and flopping around
So after that i was like NO MORE WEED EVER
Even tho I have this tattoo
And I used to love the sh*t outa MJ
So… now it’s a year and half later
And I have to say
It never
Went
Away
Completely
Guys, you all trust your body, you don’t even think about it, but you should, you should thank it every day for doing a thousand things perfectly
Im still screwed up from all that
Mentally im fine
But physically im a wreck
I now have chronic fatigue and have spent my entire life since then figuring out what it was and how to cure it, in the mean time I have learned so much about medicine that I can have conversations with doctors and nurses who I meet and they will sya I am smarter or as smart as they are
I wanna list all my chronic symptoms but im getting tired its 4 oclock right now in cali
Some are heart palapations, muscle tension, twitches in my muscles microtiwtches, micro pains traveling micropains, bad fatigue, gastrointestingal problems, gut pains, pains anywhere, anxiety, extreme feelings of uncomfrotablity whether its from hunger or heat or cold or emotional or anything
Luckily my brain function retuned back to normal after that last and worst experience(I think)
Just wanted to say that I had this crazy ass exepericne that was unleashed by the psycheclic power of marijuana, and yes I have smoked a couple time since then, after taking massive amounts of vitamins and herbs and doing meditation and qigong and kundalini yoga, and I had such small amounts and such mental power that I was able to control with only some fatigue lasting a couple days but one of the expericnes was good I felt almost enlightnened, my theory is that the psychedelic power of the cannabis gets unlocked in people and its power can be used for good or bad but that your minds ability to affect your body becomes magnified 100x and even tho it sounds impossible your mind can destroy and heal your body with the flick of switch, and you can feel it all with visceral awareness, also hit me up if you want to see studies of how marijuana shuts down the immune system and causes infection in mice to speed way up and increases mortality in infection situations
Marinajana is powerful psychedelic and I have had some powerful shromlike experinces with it so be careful, lots of people say shrroms and acid have less anxiety than mj
And yeah mj relieves pain in most people and is calming in most people, and most people don’t admit it give them anxity, and most poele scoff at actually hallucinations when high
I am a 38 year old male. My story started 4 years ago... I used MJ for the first time and instantly became a regular user because of depression I had dealt with since age 13. The MJ lessened my depression symptoms significantly and for about one year, I felt great. I only used 2-3 times per week, mostly taking hits from a bowl. I ran marathons as well. I was in the best shape of my life.
About one year after I started using, I began noticing left side chest pain and left side back pain between the shoulder blades. To be safer, I bought a vaporizer and mostly used that or ate pot brownies from then on. I was worried I was damaging my lungs, although tests were negative. I didn't want it to affect my running. I would even go a month or two and not use at all. The pain did NOT subside, so I figured it had nothing to do with the weed. The pain slowly continued getting worse once I started using again and it moved to my intestines, mid back, and my heart. I saw so many docs, had 4 CT scans for pancreatic cancer, lung disease, heart problems, stomach problems, etc. All tests came back normal. The pain would continue moving in different parts of my body. Everyone thought I was crazy, especially the guys I would sometimes vape with.
Long story short, I never attributed my chronic pain to the weed. I believed everyone else who told me it was anxiety or all in my head. I just thought the weed made me "more focused" on pain in my body. I didn't want to believe it was causing the pain.
Four years have gone by. In June of this past summer, after going to a music festival and smoking there with friends, I had trouble breathing when I came back. Ever since my lung function has been getting worse. I had to stop running two years ago because of the pain and now I can't exercise at all because of my lungs. I have not used at all for two and a half months and plan on never using again.
I have also done quite a bit of research @Chrill7 and agree with many of your points. I think some of us for whatever reason do not tolerate weed very well and our body turns on itself. I have three kids and think every day about how much time I may have left with them. The pain can be almost unbearable at times and now with the lung problems, I worry that the pain/inflammation is leading to COPD. I'm on prednisone, albuterol, and singulair now. There has been research showing that MJ users can develop COPD much earlier than cigarette smokers. I wonder if it occurs because people like us who kept using when the pain started.
I feel like a dumbass for continuing to use for four years. It also angers me that I used relatively so little (2-3 times per week) compared to some of my friends who smoke every day and I'm dealing with this c**p. I no longer freak out about dying. I think I'm ready if it happens, although I'll miss my family. I had multiple freak out moments over the last couple of years about dying. I'm glad those are over.
I will try the parasite cleanse and see if my symptoms improve a little. I'm pretty sure my lungs are permanently damaged. I had a breathing test in July that showed some obstruction but not enough to qualify for a diagnosis of asthma or COPD. My symptoms are considerably worse now. And the weirdest part is... the last few times I used before I quit, I DIDN'T INHALE ANYTHING! I ate some brownies each time and my lungs felt like they were on fire! Also, I've never smoked cigarettes. I have no smoking history except for the weed.
I've done quite a bit of research too. Some of my research revealed that pain receptors in the body are very similar to endocannibinoid receptors that THC usually connects to. The body sometimes gets confused when the THC enters the body and binds to the pain receptors instead. There have been several experiments that have proven this process. In the experiments, the subjects were given a one month supply of "cannibinoid blocker" medication. Their symptoms went away after taking this medication for a month. Unfortunately, this medication WAS approved by the FDA 10 or so years ago and has since been pulled due to suicidal thinking by a large number of people. It is actually a weight loss drug, which makes sense when you think of how the opposite, weed, can give the munchies. I wish I could get my hands on a one-month supply. There are European countries that still use this drug. I'll pass on the research to anyone who is interested.
Let me say as well that I used to LOVE MJ. I am sad I've had to give it up. It was the most effective medication I ever used for depression. My agenda is to let others know my story and to thank all of you who have shared yours. It makes me feel a bit better knowing I'm not the only one. I thought forever that I was.
Thanks for listening,
Ben
Ben
Im really sorry for your symptoms, it sounds really bad.
sorry my post was so long!
Now the first thing that comes to mind is that when you eat marijuan it gets
transformed into a chemical thru the liver that is slightly differnt that
THC i think its call 11hydroxythc? anyways this chemicals has much more powerful
effect on the CB2 receptors which are actualy the ones that effect the BODY
not the Brain. Especialy the immune system. The cannabinoid system shuts
of the immune ssytem VERY strongly and i think that certain individulas
are genetically predisposed to certrain germs that either cause the pain
directly or cause nerve inflamation which causes twitching, feeling bad, and
pain.
Ofcourse your friends will tell you you are crazy or its all in your head
because thats what they are trained to think. Obvoiusly by now you know that
your health is the most sacred thing you have and you shouldnt ever ignore it
and that your friends are wrong.
Something i have noticed is taht alot of people who have this kind of negative
reaction to marijuana(suposed safe drug lol) from the threads ive been on
were ppl who exercised alot, i have no idea why this woould do that, but
after someone exercises too hard their immuune system gets shut down for a few
hours where normal pathogens could come out and hurt you if other immune
suppresing factors get put in the mix (eg marijauan)
there are an AMAZING amount of germs in the human body that can cause diesase
norammly 99% of these bugs lie dormant but when your body goes into stress,
they come out and cause horrible diseases, one virus comes to mind, the jc virus
it is present in about 80% of people but if you are immunodeificnet then it will
go into your brain and wreak havoc there.
Once something gets to your brain or to your nerves, it causes everything
downsteram to be dysregulated, it could cause muscle atrophy, and any other
amount of symptoms
Haha OMG I forgot, but that was the EXACT spot where my early symptoms were
concentrated at, I CANT BELIVE I FORGOT lol but there was this spot
right between my shoulder blades on the left side of my spine, and i used
to obses over why that spot all this badness seemed to come from it, i used
to get these feelings of coldness leaking down from that area, which is another
symptoms of nerve damage or dysregulatoin, not to be confused with psychosis
There are other theories, I really really like what you said about the body
confusing the THC for a pain signal, but taht would necessiate something
ive started having a hunch about, that pain actualy causes damage in the body
like some kind of "cellular placebo effect" experince of pain causes chemicals
to be relased that cause damage in the body, as it is an intensidfied form of stress
and we all know stress is very very damaging to the body, maybe pain causes enough
acute stress to cause cell death and dysregulated inflmation
and it could be possible that the pain is caused by a virus in the nerves
caused by genetic susceptiblity environmental toxins other pathogens nutritional
deficines and sometimes recreational drugs like marijaunaa
the other feature of mairjuana that sticks out to me is how it increase
the adrenal realse of cortisol (and adrenaline?) and marijuana COMPLTLEY
dysregulates the hypotalmic-gondalal axis, in other words those who are given
thc and have their levels of sex hormones monitored, their sex hormones go wayyyyy
down.
what effect this may have on someone who is gentically susceptiable to unkown
factors effecting unkown things is ... well, unkown.
i realize now that my anxiety on weed had been my body teling me that the weed
was bad for me, it got progressivley worse until i learned how to suppress it
and a few months later and like magic, im sick. I for sure thought the first few
mild times i felt i had pain with weed that it was deifintley the weed making
me overly anxious and concnetrate on the feelings too much. but obvoiusly
the only thing that was crzy was that theory.
prednisone and those (asthma?) drugs will defintley supress your immune system
which can do one of two things, it can either stop all the problems quickly
because the problems are caused by an OVERactive immune system, based
on some chemical dysregulation causing autimmune disease. or it can help you
feel better for a littel bit, and then you will get way way way worse because
the predinsons and other drugs are SHUTTING OFF your immune system in an
attempt to reduce inflamtion, letting whatever germ is causing this problem
to proliferative MASSIVLEY
marijuana would cause copd either cus of the tar in the smoke, or because
all the opprotunistic germs in the lungs get supressed in susceptible indivuakls
i also felt bad that i couldnt smoke anymore, i mean i have a freakin tatto of
thc on my arm, but you will get over that
i dont blame you for your moments of thinking your dying
becuase i had one of those too, (not under the infulence) so i understand
exactly how you feel, i cried for like an entire day and wrote my will.
even though i was 17. i dont have a family so it must be even harder for you
it was at this exact time in my life that my familty had compltey abandoded
me to the street, mainly because i was a pothead ironically
initaly i was sure my diease was caused exactly by a syrdrome called
"diseemintated strongyloidosis" or the infection of the entire body
with tiny opprotunistic worms that are carried in a large percetnage of people
they live in the lungs and instestines.
now im going a little more towards the virus in nerves thoery.. but it may be
just cus im forgetting exactly how i felt before...
on that note,
YOU WILL GET BETTER!!!!!
i garantee you that it wil get less bad over time, ovcourse it will be unaceptalbe
always, but it will get better
for me its been almost 2 years!! since i got suddenly sick and i am feeling
MUCH better now, though i am BY NO MEANS cured, i still think of killing myself
sometimes, the pains are much les lucid, i have less twitching, my heart
is much healthier my mood is much better, i am much stonger, my muscles arent
atrophying quite as fast, and other things
i attribute this to meditation exercise lots of herbvs and nutrition lack of stress
and time...
another thing is, you can look at the upside of this,
since i got sick, i have learned so much about health, you could just call
me gregory house lol! i mean i am a freaking GENIUS, AND i CARE, i have spent
so much time and effort learning from every possible source i dont even know
how to explain myself. my entire outlook on life has changed
my i go to college i am going to become a doctor and i am going to write books
and i am going to influcne things i want to become famous, i know it sounsd
egomaniacal, but this has changed me, if i dont kil myself first, if this "Thing"
doesnt kill me, the worlds gonna have to watch out for me
i know of several things i think may help you
i know there are several thigns that helped me
there are severall things i realy want to try but dont have the money
the first thing you should look up as a kind of thing to slow the progresion
of this is called the "buteyko method" or buteyko breating, it is a method
scientifly proven to incrase your body oxygen levels, and many people belive
that the cause of all disease is a lack of oxygen at the cellular level!
ill be damned if i let one more person on this earth suffer the way i did!
your lucky cus you found me!
lol!
i find it interesting that we mainly have sysmtpoms in similar places
in the lungs and intsetines, though i also have alot of symptoms in my heart
and throughtout my entire body
one of the symtptoms of marijuana is MEMORY LOSS you forget how bad it was the
last time!!
DONT SMOKE AGAIN!
EVER!!!!
you risk in my honest opionion organ damage and death.
please show me your studies that show thc involvment with pain receptors please!!!
all ive read about marijua and pain is how it actiavates cb recetors
whihc fucntion as antiinflamtior pain releivers lol
you know, i think it may be a GENIUS idea to get a cb-blocker ben!
i may be able to get a hold of some, but it may be from overeseas or something
cus its not like a doctor will prescriber to you here anyways even if it was
legal!
i wonder if the symprotms are mainly caused by the cb1 recptor or the cb2 receptor
activation, or wether it actualy has nothing to do with the receptor and eveything
to do witht he chemical (thc)
if eating weed is worse than smoking it i would be persuaded to think that
the cb2 recetpors are more involved.
i read the thing about how that drug was for weight loss but caused ppl to
feel bad, but i really want to try it.
it is also true that potsmoker can consume almost double the calories of
a normal person lol!
I just want to agree here(ben) and say that i was very sad to leave marijuan
and though i dont know if it was the best antidepressant i ever had, it stil
sucks to lose my obsseive little vice.
i also feel that my agenda is too to let others know my story and to thank
all of you for your stories, and that i am quite relived to know that others
have expericned this.
Also i want to help figure this thing out the best i can,
and help as many people as possible bring their health back to optimum.
and just to prove im not some antimarijuana goverment trained agent
i want to state here that im fine with people smoking bud and DONT think it
evil i just hink if it ever does anything to make you feel bad STOP USING.
so what is your pain like ben, does it come and go, is it soreness? does it feel
uncomfortable? is it like a sharp pain then its gone?, does it "roam"? is it
preceded by or does it cause muscle twitches? do you have heart palpiatations?
spinal pain? any "wierd" sensations, muscle atrophy?
how senstive are you to weed now? if you even smell it does it cause symtoms cus
thats how i can get. are you sensitve to other drugs? personally i doubt i could
handle shrooms or acid, and alchhol can make me feel bad, opiates are the only
drug that feels like it "used to" anymore, the rest all make me feel more miserable
than its worth most likely because all those drugs wreack your body while, opiates
may be dangerous because of overdose risk and addiction, actually INCRASE your lifespan
as they relive pain and slow down your metabloism and make you feel happy reliably.
are you super intolerant to exercise? how tired are you?
diareah? constipation? sorenss? tinnitus? dificuly swallowing? dificulty healing?
get sick alot? sex drive? anxiety? depresion? strenght? weight? other symptoms?
how long you been "sick"?
i cant really think about what else to post right here bsides some random stuff, so
ill save the th rest for later,
sorry for another long post
David