Kidney Stone Info/Tricks from a guy who's passed more than 200!

269 answers - active on Feb 19th 2022
I looked through some of these posts and I see that a lot of people have kidney stone issues and have been, or are going through many of the situatios that I have. I have become a sefl-taught expert on kidney stones since I have passed over 200 in my lifetime. I have a congenital kidney disease called Medullary Sponge Kidney Disease and it causes me to make stones like most people grow fingernails. When you pass that many stones, you get to know your body and tricks to make things less painful so I thought I'd come and tell of some experiences that might help others. In addition to passing more than 200, I've also been through 7 Lythotrypsies so I know all that as well. I passed my first stone when I was 20. Typical severe pain in my left flank area, like a knife pushed deep and twisting. That lasted several hours and landed me in the E.R. It took me 3 weeks to pass that stone but I finally did. The pain is typically the most instense pain a man will ever go through. The way I know it's a stone is that no amount of re-positioning makes that pain better. It stays the same incredible intensity throughout the experience. For those who are not familiar with stones, the pain is caused when the stone is pushed down the ureters on the way to the bladded. Generally, you will pass a lot of blood the first few times this happens. Not usually bright red blood but very dark rust colored. I actually passed blood the day before the pain. Didn't know, at that time, what was going on but learned quick. Over the years, I have so much scar tissue built up inside my ureters that I no longer pass any visible blood and seldom feel the stone passing down the ureters. I have even passed 8mm stones and never knew which side it came down because it didn't hurt. But that was after the first 50 or so. I also know WHERE in the ureter the stone is by the type and location of pain. I know a stone is right near the opening to the bladder because I get this very regular spasm, about every second or so, but the pain is felt in the tip of the penis, as if the stone is actually stuck about 1/2 inch inside the urethra. But higher up the ureter the stone is, the deeper I feel the pain in my penis, ie: If the stone is 1" from the bladder, that spasming is about 1 & 1/2 inches from the tip of my penis. This is when I know I have to push a ton of water. I generally know when the stone passes into the bladder as I get one more very intense sharp spasm... the kind that make you scream "OUCH"! Then I get ready for the next step... passing it through my penis. This is less painful than it sounds but always shocks the sh!t out of me, excuse my french. It almost always goes like this... I start peeing, and right near the end I feel the stone hit the exit of the bladder. I generally don't get the stone out then. Often it literally gets stuck in my urethra which is really painful and is noted by a sharp pain in that area when bending forward. Then I do this trick... I drink lots of water, wait until my bladder is really full and hit the bathroom. I then hold the very tip of my penis tightly so that no pee can come out. I release the stream, causing my urethra to expand (like in the cartoons when someone plugs a fire hose and a big bubble grows near the end), then I release my grip. This cause a huge, fast stream and generally pushes the trapped stone out. Often, I have to keep squeezing off the penis, over and over again while trying to keep urinating, eventually, I pass the stone. In cases where the stone is particularily large or difficult, I will fill the tub with very warm water, get in and get down on all fours, reaching back to perform the same squeezing technique. This allows you to pee underwater and point the penis straight down, an aid to getting it out of the lowest point in the bladder. Yes, I end up sitting in a bathtub full of water (and my own pee) but it works. I find a huge stone in the bottom of the tub. Then I simply shower. Because I form stones so fast, they are generally very jagged, like quartz crystals with spikes on the ends. Stones that spend years froming are generally more round and easier to pass. But often, my stones don't show up on xray because they from so fast, they are not dense and therefore, not radio-opaque. This oftens causes me issues as new doctors think I'm faking a stone. Another trick I use is when I have a stone stuck in my ureter for weeks or months. I go to the E.R. and have them hook me up to a normal sailine I.V. and push it wide open. This moves so much fluid through my kidneys that the stone often moves to the bladder with 2 hours. But this is not recommended for men over 50 as having that much fluid in your boday can cause a heart attack. Basically, you are simulating Congestive Heart Failure by having so much fluid going through your bloodstream. I haven't done the IV thing since I turned 50. As to what causes my stones, they are almost always calcium-oxylate, the typical type. Drinking colas is the number one way people get these stones. But eating nuts is also not a good idea. Many people say coffee is bad (tea is very high in oxylates) but I actually drink only coffee for the past 5 years and have greatly reduced my stone issues. I do drink lots of coffee and some water too so I think the hydration alone is what's working. I spent 2 years drinking 2 bears a day... never created a stone in 2 years. But I couldn't keep my beer gut from forming. Beer is a great diuretic. I also try to take a Flomax when I know I'm about to pass a stone. Makes it easier to release the prostate and get flow going. These are just some of the things I've learned over the years. I hope they help someone. I came here today because I feel like I passed a stone into my bladder but have not been able to flush it out. And at least half the times I go to pee, there is nothing, no pain, no stone trying to exit the bladder near the end. This is very unusual for me. And it happened the same last month... felt I passed a stone but never did. So either I have one stuck in the bladder (which BTW happens often... the bladder is not smooth on the inside, it has lots of folds and crevices that like to hold onto stones) or I am experiencing prostate stones for the first time. I came here looking for symptoms of those as they are new to me. Good luck to all. Drink lots of water!
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This is my first time trying to pass a stone...I went to my reg doc 7 days ago...I had a kidney infection...my first time with that also...so the infection is under control and some pain has eased... but now just my left kidney hurts to the touch around waist from part way from back to the front......I am drinking water as much as i can..  so Im I understanding that could go on for like a looonng time??   Oh lord help me if it does!!!!!!o.O:-@:-@
Oh I meant to mention that they did do a urine test and i do have blood in urine
thanks for the info i been passing this stone for seven days but by you explaining the pain now i know where its at great tips this is my second time in a year that i had them i got 2 2mm 1 3mm and 1 5mm i been in pain for almost 8 days now but its almost done thanks again
Is this once a day? I have a 5mm now in my unirary tract! I'm willing to try anthing at this point!
I have passed about 30 stones, with about 4 trips to the ER. I can tell when they are coming and I have found two things work that keep me from full blown pain episodes. I take a tablespoon of Coconut Oil daily. The acids melt the stones based on the acid vs base principle. The acids in coconut oil disolve the stones and keep them from forming. When I do feel a stone with either back pain or side pain, I buy a huge thing of pure lemon juice and dring a gallon of 50/50 water and lemon juice. Again the acid base principle. Lot of research has been done on both lemons/lemonade, as well as coconut oil. I drink a glass of lemonade every other day.
After four hours of drinking about a half gallon of water and peeing every five minutes, I finally tried the "pinch the penis head" trick recommended here, and it worked the first time...the stone (about 4 mm) popped out like a champagne cork. Just a warning though: it was messy, so you might want to do this in a shower or bathtub.
Many thanks for all the tips on here. I found out last week that I have 2 stones, 5mm & 6mm. No luck in passing them so far despite continuing to drink plenty. In the last couple of days, just as I finishing peeing, I'm getting a burning sensation which only lasts for about 5 seconds. Does this sound like a UTI and if so should visit my Dr again?
Thank god. Im 24 and im passing my second kidney stone. The first one was exactly a year ago. I have had uti problems my whole life starting at the age of 7. I am female btw. My first stone they kept me in the hospital and put a stint in....the stint hurt worse than the kidney stone and made it so hard to pee and it hurt so bad to pee. This one they sent me home with perscriptions i cant afford so i came here looking for answers. My day begins with waking up in the morning to no pain at all. I eat lunch around 12 and walk around campus as i am in college. Around 5 each day is when the pain kicks in...i go to supper and i can barely eat...i then crawl in bed and cry myself to sleep. This is a everyday routine for me. I am just wondering why everyday at 5? Does it have somethimg to do with the fact that i dont drink anything till i eat lunch at 12? I was told by my doctor that it was blocking my urine and making my bladder swell, then he told me its in the right position to move on down...so i am just slightly confused.
Maybe too big to pass but is blocking ureters every now and then. Lithotripsy?
Hi! I have medullary sponge kidney also. I've probably passed around 80 stones. Started when I was 13 and now I'm 35. It feels good to know that there are other people with my same problem. Not that I want others to hurt. But it's good to know that you're not the only one. People start looking at you when you're constantly passing stones and start thinking that you're making things up.
I've just seen a nephrologist this week. I too was concerned about all the scar tissue. They did kidney function tests and said everything is fine. He said not to worry about it that it should be okay. It's hard not to worry though. It didn't help that the nephrologists office was at the local dialysis clinic. Scared the heck out of me.
Hi I am a 56 male this is my first stone most pain in my life pain so bad in left kidney and left testicle like a truck was parked on top of them for three hour ever wave of pain I got sick ,and the acid burn my throat for days . I lay on my bed .when I try to lay on my stomach I got a sharp pain in left kidney . no pain for 5 days now will start to take the pill a day .thing in 2 day from now to help pass it .dont know what that will be like . dr says its 4 mm and should pass.  
Hi, I had the most painful time of my life when a kidney stone passed down from my kidneys to the waterworks bit. Several hours of the worst pain I've ever experienced. Ended up in a&e, shots of morphine etc. Did a scan, found a 6 mm stone. They insisted on surgery. I wanted natural and less evasive. This was 6 days ago. I went home, began to drink lots of water, and in the morning before consuming anything, I drank warm water with two table spoons of olive oil and two table spoons of honey.    I just a stone,long and narrow with the smallest amount of discount. I don't know if the full stone has come out or a bit of it came out.    Either way happy and happy not to have surgery. The pain as stopped me drinking colas or tea again. Water or cordial from now on.
Thank you.    
I've had 12 stones and do the opposite. As soon as I feel one is stuck, usually when getting up in the morning, I pass all the urine in my body and vomit. Then I do not take any fluids at all. I even spit all my spit out so not even my spit goes down my throat. This eases the pain as the remaining fluid drains from the distended kidney. Then I wait for a few hours and can actually feel the peristalsis moving the stone down on its own. This is the best way to pass stones as the pain goes away. I know people will disagree with this method but it works for me. I now consider myself an expert stone passer as well.
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