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very, very true. Though it sounds ridiculous, you need to get down to 0.1mg/day--0.5mg is way too much--you'll be hurtin for sure. I know, I've used sub for years before getting off the c**p....
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Thanks Subhelper for your post....I was snorting 10 to 12 hydo a day I was in pain management ...due to my neck I have 3 disk out then 4 more that are separated..I new in my heart this was not right what I was doing so I ask a friend if he would help me get off this ..I went to him he is Substance Abuse Counselor for 20 years I was rehab for 5 days..they gave me 4mg of suboxone it stop the withdrawal I did not even think a bout a hydo ... I have been use your taper plan down to 1mg and 1/2 a day... i need support not Money..just a good email for encouragement..Thanks God Bless you
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Yea I was kkol bought my fi rst kilo of smoke--accapoco gold--from the bike group I dont talk about in 1970 --GET THIS FOR $ 85.00 WE GOT 39 OUNCES SOLD 8 AND 3 OF US HAD 10 OS A PIECE IN HEAVEN--TOOK MY FIRST LSD THAT SUMMER-PURPLRDOUBLEDOME-BY MISTAKE WE TOOK 1 AND A HALF SUARES THINKING EACH WAS ONE HIT-THIS GUY WALKS IN AND TELLS US WOW YOU JUST TOOK 6 HITS OF EXCELLENT LSD -WENT ON FOR OVER 20 HRS.I always worked and tryed to make more money than the othere constuction dudes and spend it on all the goods drugs before iI even left the job-----been clean maybe 14 years take suboxone cause I forgot to take my oycies and had seizure in come for 10 days grossmont ca. woke up pn 16 metheadone a day-sick and no sleep-took 3 years to get to 6 finnnnally put myself in nut ward at grossmont-my meds were not to be tekeing togeter no one told me-out there for 6 months comeing down every night walking church parking lot sweating like a dog-go in lay down-10 seconds up and walking leg and arm cramps.. they fixed me at grossmont taking me off 5 meds-I was was over loaded-on suboxon 12 mgs and just started to get off cause weight lose and no sleep -seraquels i sleep for 1 and a hlf hours then wirded-over wirded feel like--terriable-i cut down to 8 and had to add a litle back to 9.just cant sleep/right now i have 4 hrs in 3 days.one night up wide out.. God gets me thru ALSO EVRYONE NEEDS TO KNOW MEDS DONT WORK GOOD AFTER TAKEING sh*t ALL YOUR LIFE. GOD BLESS YOUR NEW ROAD IN WITRH IN GRASPPP TAKE IT AND PREACH TO ALL WHO MAY LISTEN CAUSE YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE.BECOME REHAB DIUDE ON THE SIDE-WISH i HAD SOME ONE BUT i WAS YOUNGEST AND ALL THE OLDER FREINDS GOT HIGH SO DID I SEE YA STEAMER EL CAJON CA.
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I'm GLAD you're such a "professonal" that being suicide ally miserable for MONTHS makes you proud. People HANG themselves because they can't get off of this horrible trash! You need to get out more. Suboxone IS a scam!!
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can anyone help about if the drug is left out of the packet how long does it last. Does it lose its potency if the packet is left open.Does some of the chemicals evaporate.Please tell me Kel
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I realize this is an old post, but I wanted to share some thoughts that I havent seen too much written about on these forums. I dont think Sub is easy to get off.... But as alot of people on here can relate...I sacificed an astronomical amount of money, time, and relationships establishing my dependency to opiates. Mainly Lortabs, Percs, Oxy, Roxy...etc (the usual suspects). For ten plus years with a $100/day habit, (me) this confident career oriented funny guy with a great group of friends transformed into a zero self of steem addict who associated with the absolute worst people only to buy meds that were making me feel worse everyday...emotionally and physically. Its a vicious circle that sneaks up on you. After numerous failed attempts, I found Suboxone. I hated it at first. All the years had trained my mind to know one routine. Pills in the morning to get up and pills to function throughout the day. So taking a film under my tongue once a day with zero euphoria was mentally awful...at first. But as time went on, my brain adjusted. It took me six months before I truly realized I had no desire to take another pill. Things became so much clearer. Instead of being numb, I started accepting all the pathetic things I had done to myself and others. But it was neccassary.
So my point is (in my opinion) the greatest benefit of suboxone is the retraining of your mind and body. My hat is off for people that can kick it in weeks, but me....No Way. Ive used this time to get back on track financially and by mending relationships I ignored all those years. Going along with a plan I devised, I am down to .25mgs every other day and feel good. I know its about to get much tougher, but I deserve it. I did this to myself so I understand the consequences.
I do agree that Sub shouldnt be taken long term, but again I think your brian cant heal itself in a matter of weeks or a couple months. I sincerely wish all of you Good luck. My opiate experience has been hell on earth, but I know this has made me a better and stronger person.
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I so understand what you mean. It is hell and coming off of it (3rd day) it's almost unthinkable that this is just the tip of it all. I also, am in a program and I can't blame them, I know now this is all on me and I can't stand me and what pain I cause anymore. The counselor's in the program spoke of dreams and goals in the beginning, welp, every dream and goal such as marriage, family, college all of it was a pipe-dream. All the sub's did was keep me in this "fantasy" that I was fine and everything will work out and my partner would marry me and I would shed this skin of an addict. No, I lived a 3 year lie and now I am at crossroads and really need help. I fell short and had some sub's taken from me and my doc appt. isn't til another 8 days, I want to just clean out but, I know there's not much use, I am miserable sober, I cannot hold down a job for my depression and nerves, I cry for no reason and freak out over anything. So, do I try and get some sub's to hold me over or just say f**k it and get off this and just stay the way life is intended to be; sad and alone with no give?
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