Thanks for your post. Today is 2 months clear of 4mg sub, down from 8 mg/day.On it for 5 yrs. from just a habit from pain killers for bad back and then gout. Never H or methadone. I did not taper, just decided to not pick up my new RX as I travel a lot and was sick of being tied to this monthly c**p. Boy I kept that prescription at the pharmacy for 3 weeks until I knew I could beat this It has been a bear, just the last few days feeling marginally OK. But the lethargy is still ruling the day. I have tried all kinds of vitamens, but really to no avail. I too have noticed one weird thing. Since jumping off, I have noticed my vision is worse- strange. Also, the slight depresion and very fragile emotional system. This drug, and now my MD agrees with me, should not be prescribed to people with anything less than a major opiate problem, and even then one should taper down to 2- 4 mg/day. I was told out of over 1000 patients he has with suboxone, only 2 have sucessfully quit. That's a vey wicked drug indeed
A.L.
Like a previous post said at this stage; Most of the physical WD symptoms are gone. There will be RLS here and there, and still have the runs, but now its mainly fatigue and depression. Its hard to get motivated. The morning might be good, but then around noon, all my energy leaves. And I nearly pass out at my desk.
I found The Thomas Recipe (stuff you can buy over the counter to help with WD symptoms) online, and I made my own version of it. And it helped a little.
What I did was experiment with the Vitamins and Over The Counter herbs. I have been using htp-5. Which helped a lot for a couple days. I also tried L-Tyrosine w/ Vitamin B-6 (helps with absorption of the Amino Acids). L-Tyrosine seems to knock me out, where HTP-5 did give me energy. I also took them at the same time (needs to be on an empty stomach). And it helped with energy for one day. However, now they dont seem to be doing much for me. Most people however find that L-Tyrosine wakes them up, but I think I had plenty of Dopamine in my brain and its why HTP-5 worked for a couple days (had low levels of Serotonin). I mention this because on many other forums such as "Social Anxiety", you may see that the oposite worked for many peoples. But I want you to know that it may work backwards for you (Opiates knock down your serotonin) should you decide to do your own experiments when you get fatigued. You just have to give it a go and try things out. I recommend only buying small bottles until you know that it's doing something for you. I was stupid and bought huge bottles, and have no use for them anymore.
I also got Phenibut. Its like a Benzo powder that you can buy online. If you use this, make sure you read up on it. It has lots of side effects and can become dangerous. Phenibut helps with anxiety. Although, it makes me feel burnt, as though I smoke a bunch of bud hours before. It really just made me cloudy and weird. It's known to be very addicting. So I'm no longer using this, Unless I need it for some reason down the road (never really been a benzo person). LOVE THE OPIATES THOUGH ;-)
The thing that has helped me the most is the Kratom. Although I felt "High" twice, it's not strong enough for me to really do much more; anymore. Kratom is like a 3.5 codine. WEAK! But it does help with WD symptoms. Also, if you have the money, I would recommend getting Ultra Enhanced Indo (aka UEI) along with Premium Powdered Bali. And dump the gram or two you buy and put it in the Bali. This will help make the bali stronger (you can get more out of it with taking less, bc its hard to get down the hatch). I dont want to promote vendors but I'll give you a hint on which place I found to be the best stuff thus far "BB Botanical". And only take enough to ease the symptoms. You dont want to become dependent on it. And should you ever, the less your taking daily, the easier it will be to wean off. I took a day off from Kratom just to see if I would experience WD, and the only WD symptoms I was feeling was the Suboxone. I can tell because they are different. And Suboxone WD is unique in its own.
After 4 weeks, things are not over. I wish they were, but their not. Depression and fatique are horrible in their own. Esp if you have to function at work. And I can't seem to find enough Caffiene in the world to wake me up. Only Kratom seems to help. I hope that after this batch of kratom (going to the beach for a week) I'll come back rejuvenated from being in the ocean/sun.
If you dont have a beach, go to a pool. It will help your RLS. And exercise has helped boost energy short term too. If you have any questions PM me, and I'm more than happy to help with what I can....
All the love (sometimes) of the day ;-) , my 2 cents.
Hello my name is brandy i too was addicted to pain killers.I broke my foot then the b/s started.Because ur docters bk when would give anything to anybody.Now u can't get something even if u in the hospital w/ two crushed ankles and a rt crushed wrist.They left her on the hospital table and said it's against the law now to give pain meds until the dr. comes in too the room.HELLO!!Ok anyway i started the suboxone about 1 year and a half ago.I was so scared of the withdrawals but u know if people would just understand it's all in ur head.You can control it.Because now when u go to get the suboxone u r now entering a long long process that could of been avoided;but their are people who don't think they have this ability to control their urges.The urges and the pain u feel everyday is there.I am the type of person who thinks and really really pays attention to everything.So i like to feel what my body does or feels as i started the suboxone and when i stopped the suboxone which in fact i stopped the suboxone like about two or three weeks idk i can't remember lol.I started out taking suboxone on Apirl 24, 2011.When i had to stop which i was set in my mind that i was going to stop.I wasn't going to keep on just making excuses on why i needed to keep taking it.Because when u r taking the opiates ur life and ur brain just is taken over.But y'all already know this. LOL !!Ok i had to stop taking the suboxone b/c my insurance would not approve me any more visits.So my dr. had been thankfully lowering my dosages.When i had my last appointment that prescription had to last me and my husband to be able to keep on lowering the dosage.Now i'm talking really lowering;if u r taking the strips which that is what i was used to taking.We had to cut the strips in sections and every day for about two mths. i think i just kept on cutting till i had a tiny lil-piece the size of a piece of small convetti.ok and when it became the time that i was going to run out i mentally tried preparing myself.That u r getting off this medicine u can't get anymore u don't need it anymore.But w/ me u can say those things all day long.But when i did my last lil-piece the next day wasn't that bad.But the next two weeks or so has been hell.But what i'm really trying to do is let people know if u decide to stop please just get enoungh strips or whatever u r taking and gradually take smaller and smaller doses.The dr. says we only have 2mg and 8mg strips for dosing well they take u down by mg ok so if u gradually take the strips and cut them in lil lines sideways and for about a week at a time take that lil dose because at this point ur dr. hopefully has gotton u down to a comfortable dose.If they have not i could suggest other that u would not have to just deal w/ the high dosage withdrawals.But i cannot here.LOL I just want to say that i have been there and if u r in ur mind ready to stop like i was then there r ways u can do this even if u cannot go bk. to the dr. like i couldn't.So in conclusion this medicine might help alot of people.But to use this medicine as a cover up to taking the freaking terrilbe opiates.For people to get hooked on the pain meds. or any adddictive drugs this suboxone that the FDA has come up w/ is just another cover up and money scam.T ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** private e-mails not allowed*** Please read our Terms of Use