My hub feels sub is his best option.Dr wants to start him at 8mg a day. until my hub addresses his emotionally issues staying clean is not an option. so the Dr is telling him sub will give him the chance to learn the coping skills he needs & wants him on for 6 mth to year.
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if anyone wuld talk to my hub. Im very strong willed so i dnt understand why its so hard for him to stay clean. Dr says b/c opiates have done damage to his receptors which control his willpower to resist. my dad was addicted to oxy & has been clean 10 yrs plus. quit cold turkey so why cant my hub??
Doc has a point on the emotional strength needed to cope. I would encourage him to attend some meetings to gain some support outside of immediate family. Sounds like you and your dad are a good support system but you'd be amazed what a good meeting can do.
It's hard for non-addicts to understand. My wife is clean and strong-willed. She's never touched a drug in her life and I've been on and off them for 15 years. The reality is that you may never understand. You can attend counseling, NarNon meetings, etc but it takes a fellow addict to appreciate the difficulty and challenges in staying clean.
As for quitting cold turkey, I'm on the fence. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have rather skipped subs and tapered off of opiates. That being said, it's not for everybody. Withdrawal isn't fun and some people relapse quickly when they go cold turkey. Encourage your husband to get mentally prepared and comfortable with the idea of addiction. More than anything, remind him that it's ONE DAY AT A TIME. Stay clean - JUST FOR TODAY.
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Hi, I've been reading a few things on different websites and am a bit confused/conflicted. I have a neurological condition that I had surgery for, and have been on pain meds (200mg+) for the last 3 years. I was on Oxy but it didn't seem to work well for the 8 hours, so now on Ms.Contin and Immediate. I do not have a psychological addiction. I asked my doctor to start a taper plan because I'm not sure if I really need the meds anymore. I was on Norco- quit, dilaudid- quit, morphine- quit BUT since i have been on the morphine for so long I've been having terrible withdrawals. If it was a one time thing I wouldn't have a problem, but it seems every time I do a 10-20% taper I get very sick for 3-6 days. I have a couple of options- one is take methadone since it helps with neuropathic pain, and may actually be beneficial (the neuro pain is terrible even on the MsContin) Or take Subuxone I was under the impression that a methadone taper may be better and maybe even help with the other pain. But then read horror stories.. I would most likely stay on a small dose of immediate release morphine anyway as needed for back pain, so am thinking maybe methadone is worth it? The leg pain is ridiculous and I'm taking meds for for it. Now I'm not sure what to discuss with my doc, there is NO information for pain patients trying to taper, just addiction stories.
You've already come this far. I could never be w/a guy longterm that acted that way. I was when I was 16-21 & gave up. i learned you can't change anyone & they have to be the one to want it. Maybe you leaving would inspire a change? I wouldn't leave hoping for that outcome necessarily. Meaning I would be fully prepared to never be w/him again if so.
Maybe he could just get two subs and do a 3-5 day detox where he won't even feel the worst of withdrawals vs going on sub maintenance for years. Only you know what best for you, him & how fed up you are. Sometimes if someone's like that they are better off doing something cheaper at least b/c they're always gonna do something. While on sub he most likely wont have addict behavior. Ive heard its very expensive to go through a sub Dr. & they def over prescribe. A lot of people including myself can get sub for $10 or less on the street and use 1 8 mg strip for 1wk or so. Since your hub can get all these pills (unless you said theyre prescribed) he prob could find/knows someone to get sub from. Even if he did 2 strips a wk, $20 much better than $500. Wishing you luck w/him. Hope it works out how you want it to! :)
have a good day all!
that last post from me
I feel differently about Suboxone than most of you do! it saved my life! I went from taking 40 perks a day to now one Suboxone a day now which I started at three a day. if anyone has an opiate addiction should know, unless in denial, that it is the most dangerous and highly addictive drug out there! I also belief it helps prevent any addiction even for alcohol! I am much healthier, happier and am that young minded me before I started doing drugs!
Different strokes for different folks. I would have probably said the same for the first couple of months but my tune changed dramatically a few years later. It really depends on the addict and how bad things were while in active addiction. Glad it's working for you. A lot of people wouldn't be content to stay on suboxone for a lifetime but it's an option.
suboxone is the devil and s**m doctors that prescribe it f*****g know it . There is no tapering off it even if you get down to a f*****g eighth of one the withdraw is the same as coming off a whole no one should be on this f*****g drug for more then a week our f*****g gov. has finally out done the f*****g nazi scientist with this sh*t and it big business for the fuckers who make it. Now i ve taken methadone for a year and it took me a month to start feeling better. Ive used suboxone for 9 months and its been two f*****g months and I still dont feel better and Im not cheating the doctor prescribed me clonedine and trazadone for withdraw it dont do sh*t
hello everyone all the things about opiates and how hard they are to get off of and using SUBOXONE to get off the opiates IS A GREAT THING IN MY OPINOIN..HERES A FEW QUICK THINGS IVE LEARNED...ITS A PIECE OF CAKE!!! U WILL NEED IF GETTING OFF OPIATES FROM TAKING THEM 1-2 YEARS UNDER 120MGS A DAY{WHICH IS FROM MY EXPERIENCE}FYI 2 +8MG SUBOXONE STRIPS ,CALL DOCTOR GET THESE DRUGS!!!!!!..MUCHO IMPORTANTA ,I SUCK AT SPANISH DRUG{1}CLONIDINE DRUG{2}TRAZADONE DRUG{3}HYDROXYZ..AKA ATARAX THATS ALL!!..CUT THE 2 STRIPS INTO 8 PIECES THEN CUT AGAIN MAKING 16 DO YOUR 24HR WITHDRAWL FOR THE SUBS USING THE THREE MEDS 1,2,3 TO EASE THE SYMTOMS AFTER 24 HRS POP 2 STRIPS UNDER TONGUE FOLLOW SUBOXONES INSTRUCTIONS ON USING STRIPS WAIT 20 MIN AFTER THAT U ARE ON YOUR WAY!!!DEPENDING ON HOW U FEEL! BUT USING AS LEAST AS POSSIBLE ,POP STRIPS EVERY 10-24 HOURS REMMEMBERING AND DOCUMENTING TIME OF DAY U TOOK LAST ONE U MUST MAKE THE 16 STRIPS LAST 6-7 DAYS TO BE BEYOND THE OPIATES WITHDRAWL WINDOW DURING THE 6-7 DAYS TAKE MEDS 1,2,3 TO EASE ANY WITHDRAWL SYMTOMS DRINK TONS OF WATER!!!!TAKE TONS OF VITAMINS OR HIGHLY NUTRITIONAL FOODS!!! AFTER THAT ABORT ABORT ABORT!!!JUMP JUMP JUMP!!!LIKE SKYDIVING ITS ALL IN YOUR HEAD DUMMY!!!ALL U BIG BABYS WAHHHHH WAHHH JUST DO IT!!!ITS EASY I PROMISE U!!!WELL NOTHINGS 100%MIND U, ALL PEOPLE ARE DIFFERANT BUT IM SUPER SENSITIVE SO I KNOW IT WILL WORK FOR EVERYONE!!! OK NEXT IS THE GETTING OFF SUBS MY EXPERIENCE U READY????? *********DO IT BACKWARDS DUMMYS!!!!!********* GET BACK ON OPIATES AND DO THE METHOD I JUST POSTED!!!!!!!ITS THAT EASY!!!!!GET 1 MONTHS WORTH OF 30-60 MGS A DAY THEN DO THE METHOD!!!!...OK IM APLOIGIZE IF IVE OFFENED ANYONE BY CALLING U NAMES BUT IM JUST SAYING WHAT I WAS SAYING TO MYSELF THE WHOLE TIME I DID THE METHODS MYSELF.....BOY WHAT A DUMMY I WAS WORRIED ABOUT STUPID WITHDRAWLS IT WAS NP!!!! ALITTLE BIT OF TWEAKING WITH YOUR WITHDRAWL MEDS AND THERE SIDE EFFECTS WAS THE ONLY LIL SNAG!!!!!!!OK THATS IT I THINK IVE HIT ALL MY POINTS??????HMMMMMMMM I MAY UPDATE SOON AS IM DOING THIS AS WE SPEAK!!!!!!!!!!AGAIN HEHEHEHEHEHEE
ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR OF COARSE ALL THESE MEDICATIONS WERE PERCRIBED TO ME BY A CERTIFIED SUBOXONE DOCTOR AND ARE THE ONLY MEDS HE WOULD LET ME USE WHILE I WAS DOING THE SUBOXONE TO GET OFF OPIATES METHOD THEY WORK BOTH WAYS OF COARSE BUT SUPER IMPORTANT TO USE MEDS 1,2,3 WHILE USING SUBOXONE THAT STUFF IS THE DEVILS CUT!!!!!...ANYWAYS GOODLUCK EVERYONE ITS A BEATIFULL DAY WHEN U WAKE UP FROM YOUR OPIATE AND SUBOXONE SLUMBER!!!!!!!
ITS CALLED THE AZCOOLMANS METHOD!!
Hi,
I'm not sure if you will get this since it's such an old post but I am having such a difficult (to say the least) time getting off of this terrible drug. I would love to talk to you or anyone here that can help me. Sincerely, Larsy1566
Hello sorry it's been so long since I last posted. I needed to step away I was becoming obsessed with the withdrawals. The last time I posted I just got a script from the doctor for perks started to have withdrawals from that so I took 1/4 mg of subs for a week then Imodium I've been clean for I want to say 2 months but I stopped counting a while ago. I feel normal but when I get tired throughout the day I do wish i had a perk. It sucks being sober all the time but its a hell of a lot better then worrying when my next batch will come or withdrawaling weekly cause I took them to fast. My energy level isn't were I remember it but that might be my age. Gibson I'm glad your doing good proud of you. Keep up the fight guys it does get better.