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If anyone going through this detox off sub method wants to exchange nmbrs, it wld really help me... Please let me knw...
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The guy I talked to at the clinic where they help you detox said there was little to no withdrawals and I must have some otherphysical problems that I have to discuss with a regular doctor. They don't know the side effects of this drug they are handing out. I don't think everyone goes through these long withdrawals maybe it's just us lucky ones. 

Sam I can't exchange numbers I feel bad but I'm trying to keep my info off of this page. Please keep posting it does help to let it out. I don't have answers on how to make it better. I would start a 7 day cleanse right away and drink a butt load of water. I've been posting everything I've been doing since day 8 and I don't honestly know if it's helping or making it longer( the perks not posting ). I do feel better week by week so I know time helps. Stay strong and know there are others out here going through the same horrible mess we put ourselves in :(. You can do it. 

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I totally understand don, thank u for the reply, here's my email though,

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. Feel free to get a hold of me, your post are so encouraging!!! Thank you!!!

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#20 Took a perk last night slept 5 hours. I want to stop everything but I can't function. Iwish I knew how long the subs would last so I could for sure withdrawal and feel better at the end. I wanna know when this will end. I wanna find a doctor that will help me instead of just turning me away. 

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I wrote my last post right after I woke up and was mad that I got up so early. I woke up and I am feeling better. Going to try to be happy today. I'm better than last week and I need to appreciate the progress. 

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Thats really odd!!! No WD's, are they retarded? How cld a Dr who actually prescribe it think that? May be if just used it for 4-7 days only...IDK Done, do you think taking those p's in small doses is drawing it out longer? You wouldnt think it would matter I guess if just a small amount here or there but maybe you're stringing your mind and body along. Did you try melatonin to sleep yet? Maybe you cld just take sleeping pills for really rough nights? What about GABApentin? Maybe you cld go to the ER and they will help? IDk, I wish I had your problem with so much progress though. Im such a p***y. I guess Im gnna try to just wean wean and then jump at as little smidge as possible. IDK when. Your mind is gonna try to talk you into it not being worth it and to just get more subs. It will get better. That much I am 100% sure of. Obviously you've been just taking it one day at a time but even if you have to get by an hr at a time..make sure you keep short term goals or else the thoughts will bring you down. Ive quit OP/OC soooo many times. That I can live with. Im just sooo afraid of sobo b/c of all the horror stories. Although, Ive always only taken 1-2 mg tops per day so maybe I shld just try. I have been breaking it up with two wks of OPs the past 6 months Id say. I wonder if that helps. Now I just am sick of wasting the $ b/c when Im on em, they dont even mess me up! Have a good day!
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Subs can be stored in your fat cells for 30 days I think that'swhy the withdrawals are so long. But everyone is different. Some people it only took a couple weeks. I know after two weeks I felt better as far as my stomach was concerned. The fog is lifting but slowly and I do think that has a lot to do with the fact that I'm still taking stuff to sleep. The sleep part was always the worst part of the withdrawalsfrom op that kept me from stoping but I would use just a little to sleep and still got off them. I kept relapsing though. I've put space between the people that supplied me with them and don'twant to ruin that. I'm using only what a doctor gave me and trying to use as little as possible. I just wish they could give me something non narcotic that would work. Going back to a new one tomorrow to see if they can help. Good luck with your journey it'll be rough but worth not being a slave to medicine. 

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Also what about trying every other day at one mg. I've heard a lot of good taper stories as well. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones.

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#21 took 7.5 mg perk for work last night and slept I'm guessing 3 hours. I'm going to a different doc hopefully they can help. I think I need an antidepresent and something to help with sleep. I think the paws has kicked in and it's a big reason for the lack of motivation to deal with life. I physically feel better till about 4 then my body just shuts down still awake but can't function. I work nights so this makes it almost impossible to continue my job without help. I'm also going to ask for Vic's instead of perks hopefully less ops will help with the transition. I figure I have a week or so to feel better. If anyone has any suggestions or thinks I'm wrong in what I'm going to ask the doc for please let me know. I have tried all the natural stuff to sleep and over the counter stuff and nothing seems to help. 

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My friend takes a small piece of xzanex to sleep an a small piece during the day with her perks, she's also coming off subs like us, an she says she notices a huge difference with being able to sleep an also anxiety... I'm totally your cheerleader over here!! I wish the very best!! Stay possative your so close to feeling normal again...:) the hard part is over...;) I'm so proud of you!!!!
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The doctor gave me trazodone it's supposed to help with sleep and a mild antidepressant. I also got 5mg Vic's. After everything I've gone through I'd hate to come off ops as well so I'm going to try to do as little as possible to make it through work. 

Your friend is taking perks as well? Do you know how many a day, and if they're making progress or feel its just prolonging the healing process? 

I know I'm getting better I feel way better then last week but at the same time I dont know if I'm dragging it out cause I take some for sleep and work. 

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Yes shes taking 2-3 7.5 a day, depending on how she's feelig an the xzanex to sleep at times, shes only been detoxing 2 weeks an is going to start taking only 2 a day, then less an less.. She dsnt feel it's enter fearing with the sub detox because she has to b able to work, an has kids so cannot go around like a zombie, she's just staying focused an within 2 months will be off everything, dont push yourself, there's no reason to be misrable, just do the best u can, your, like her, are at the point where your done an want to live sober so bad, so keep that in your mind, how happy you'll be, an please don't push yourself too much, it's bad on your heart... Your doing an amazing job!!!!:)
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I want to start my detox so bad, I moved when I first got on sub almost a yr ago an now don't know anyone to get perks from, I'm working on it though, I wana get started so damn bad!! I'm so ready!! My girl is n Vegas where I used to be, I'm so happy for her! Were gana do this!! :)
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Thank you for the kind words I really appreciate it. I screwed up tonight and took 2 5 mg Vic and 1 5 mg perk. I felt bad about it but after reading your post it mad me lightin up on myself. There is no wayaround the withdrawals they're here and I have to push through but afterweeks of it, it's hard mentally on a person. I am going to do better tomorrow I know I will cause I gave the pills to my boyfriend  and he needs to regulate me I can't do this alone and I'm very gratefull for his support. I have Saturday off and will just chill in the tub all day if I have to. I hope I don't though and that I didn't severely screw upthe recovery. Please keep me posted on your friends progress I don't feel so alone now.

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I think giving your man the pills is a grey idea, we're addicts unfortunately, an our minds are wired to "need" it.. But again, don't push yourself too much, if u feel shity, take one.. Your doing an amazing job!!!! Jut think of how long u were on subs, so it's not going to be overnight that you get your mind 100%, just keep thinkin about how good it's going to feel to not have to take anything anymore...:) my friend is doing well, she said last night was ruff, so she took xzanex, an now has energy to face the day since she for sleep.. She's only taking 2 perks starting today which is amazing I think.. I'm so proud of both you!!! I'm still gettng my "supplies" together so I can get started too... Also, do u have any clonidine?? Those work great for chills an help u sleep an relax. Your sub dr can write u a scrip, they give them to people who are on subs.. I'm going to take those instead of xzanex when I start because there not habit forming but strong enough to actually help...keep your head up an smile, it's a new day an one more closer to being free!!! :)
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