It's a mild sedative and is sometimes used as a natural/organic alternative for opiate dependence.
It's also addictive so be careful. Maybe you all have better self control than I do and use things like this in moderation.
im on day 14 suboxone withdrawal..... i was takinf neurontin and it helped with the jimmy legs... im out and the jimmy nightmre is back! so im looking for something... im taking otc melatonin it kinda helps with the insomnia. im taking a bunch of that ! lol......i will check into the other thanks.
About the restless feet , man I can tell you guys it took my friend a whole 60 days, it gets better but slowly, just when you try to sleep and feel the jimmy legs get up move it , eventually you ll fall sleep. Just dont try to hard to fall sleep, because everyime you try and go back it starts again , however, it kind of stops when you distract you a bit , stay up all night and sleep during the day. I can tell you even if you take major tranqulizers that are non addictive , it still not going to help !!! Neurotin, Gabapentin, may help but you need such a huge dosage of it that I do not think its working. See this depression and aphaxia will pass if you be patient. Likely my friend did not have to work for 3 month so he took his time, so if you decide to detox , make sure you take sometime off .
i was an opiate addict for apprx 15 yrs, at my height of my addiction i was taking bw 20-25 vic tens a day, i got off that c**p in July 2010 but started the sub program...which ive been on for over 2.5 yrs now, no docs wanted me to taper....of course not why would they. ive begun this process myself and im on day 3 of nothing! i hurt, im fatigued, ive been in bathroom constantly, cant eat, cant sleep, legs hurt so bad....my head feels like a balloon. i hate this but i know this isnt forever, i gotta do this right, my kids need a sober mom and how can i tell my son not to do drugs if i am.....God help me, thats all i ask....withdrawls cant last forever, but a life of being chemically dependent can reek havoc on a life and many others lives as well. i choose sobriety, i choose to go thru short term hell to finally live free off the junk!
You're right - withdrawals won't last forever. Stay strong for your kids. They need you. One day at a time!
Osi well I have been an addict for 26 years ! Been on subs24mg a day for last 3years. My dr. Closed her practice and left over 100 of us hanging. I took my last 4 mg strip on the 9th of February, here it is the 28th and I feel the same as I did on the firstdays of dts. And btw theswidths are 1000times worse than ant other withdrawalhone can possible go thru!!!!
Ive now bwwn off subs for 24 days. It gets worse b4 it gets better. I didnt start to feel better til Tuesday. Just hang in there I promise you willl start to feel better soon.
In my experience being on 16mg for seven yrs it took me a good two weeks before I could sleep even a little; but at the two week point I didn't feel I was losing my mind. Hang in there. You can do it. If I could be on that high a dose for so long and do it, you certainly can. Don't give in and listen to the drug talking you. You've come too far. It will get better. I promise. Just don't ever 'forget' what you've been thru once you're on the other side and you will never have to feel this way again. I'm proud of you for coming so far!
It should be illegal to be able to just shut a practice down like that. I remember how crucial those appointments were and how many people lined up to get their script. The time it takes to find a substitute doctor would people people in serious harm. Glad you're sticking it out.
Like someone else said - try to see someone who can get some non-addictive maintenance meds like Clonidine, Vistaril, Buspar, etc. They help.
Hi I was on suboxone for 2&half years after a twenty years heroin addiction..I started on 24 mg of suboxone daily, then after a year or so went down to 18 th.en 16 mg, the past several months I ve been tapering down two mg per week & have been one month clean for first Time in over twenty years. I have found exercising has really helped with withdrawal symptoms but it's been month & I'm still dragging myself around...shouldn't I be feeling better by now? Just curious because I'm not going back
Dont want to be the bearer of bad news but your withdrawals have not even started yet, it will take a good month or 6 weeks for withdrawals to start, they can last anywhere between 5-6 ,months, then you have the terrible unholy issue for PAWS, which can last up to 5 years, don't forget you was on 16mg for 7 years, am sorry but you got to be told the truth..At the moment you got sub in your system hence of not feeling too bad, it wll get worse, am just preparing you. Be careful of the suicidal depression.
Be careful painting the picture of doom and gloom for anybody. Withdrawals are different for everybody. PAWS is very unpredictable and varies greatly from person to person. Some people feel better within a month or two while others experience signs of PAWS for up to a year or more. I was on suboxone for 4 years and klonopin for 15 years. The PAWS from Klonopin/Benzos are notoriously bad and long and it took about 7 months for me to feel good every day. No matter your drug and how long you used, it will get better.
Im a 6ft2 180lb 25 year old male and over the past thirteen years Ive quickly learned that I have barley more constitution and tolerance to withdrawal symptoms than my petite 5ft tall, 50 year old mother. Its incredibly embarrassing. Even though my w/ds seem more intense than those of my countless junkie pals they haven't stopped me from having to kick heroin countless times (no kidding, I lost count). I usually force myself to sleep and starve secluded in a locked room for five to eight days. I really don't get too bothered by heroin w/d. It feels like Id been a torture victim for a week so you can relate to the elated feeling of relief you get once its over.
SUBOXONE is the bane of my existence... Ive only kicked once in the past and im currently at the end of my first week after going "cold turkey" at the end of a binge that spanned consistently over the course of the past 11 months. but its not so 'cold turkey' after all.... see that's just it...no such thing as cold turkey with suboxone... Ive read multiple accounts of medical personnel testing their urine MONTHS after the heavy W/D subsided and still found that they tested positive for buprenorphine...
Suboxone w/d is WORSE than any drug w/d Ive experienced in that it lasts SO LONG. the first time I kicked took three weeks and I sh*t you not I didn't sleep for a week and a half... SOBER....I have never been able to stay up that long in the past. NOT EVEN ON AMPHETAMINES.
And there lies the segway to my conclusion... a possible remedy for you all. Ive tried everything to dull the discomfort, the constant flow of diarrhea, the sleepless nights, malnourishment..... the mental incompetence and anguish.... you guys probably will give me the old tisk tisk but AMPHETAMINES, namely METH is the ONLY reason I am not homeless, jobless and suicidal at this horrible point in my DIY rehabilitation. It gets rid of almost all my physical discomfort and more importantly i can go about my day..... and not loose my livelihood but maintain like i HAVE TO as im sure many of you also do. im so thankful i dont have children.
I know trading one drug for another is asking for a disaster but I have kicked addiction so many times with NO ONES help but my own i have learned how to control and trust myself. Ive never gone off the deep, however i feel myself getting tired... SERIOUSLY GUYS quit while you still can.... while you still have a home a job..... or at the very least SELF RESPECT because sh*t like this will strip you clean before you know it...
Im a 6ft2 180lb 25 year old male and over the past thirteen years Ive quickly learned that I have barely more constitution and tolerance to withdrawal symptoms than my petite 5ft tall, 50 year old mother. Its incredibly embarrassing. Even though my w/ds seem more intense than those of my countless junkie pals they haven't stopped me from having to kick heroin countless times (no kidding, I lost count). I usually force myself to sleep and starve secluded in a locked room for five to eight days. I really don't get too bothered by heroin w/d. It feels like Id been a torture victim for a week so you can relate to the elated feeling of relief you get once its over.
SUBOXONE is the bane of my existence... Ive only kicked once in the past and im currently at the end of my first week after going "cold turkey" at the end of a binge that spanned consistently over the course of the past 11 months. but its not so 'cold turkey' after all.... see that's just it...no such thing as cold turkey with suboxone... Ive read multiple accounts of medical personnel testing their urine MONTHS after the heavy W/D subsided and still found that they tested positive for buprenorphine...
Suboxone w/d is WORSE than any drug w/d Ive experienced in that it lasts SO LONG. the first time I kicked took three weeks and I $h1t you not, I didn't sleep for a week and a half... SOBER....I have never been able to stay up that long in the past. NOT EVEN ON AMPHETAMINES.
And there lies the segway to my conclusion... a possible remedy for you all. Ive tried everything to dull the discomfort, the constant flow of diarrhea, the sleepless nights, malnourishment..... the mental incompetence and anguish.... you guys probably will give me the old tisk tisk but AMPHETAMINES, namely METH is the ONLY reason I am not homeless, jobless and suicidal at this horrible point in my DIY rehabilitation. It gets rid of almost all my physical discomfort and more importantly i can go about my day..... and not loose my livelihood but maintain like i HAVE TO as im sure many of you also do. im so thankful i dont have children.
I know trading one drug for another is asking for a disaster but I have kicked addiction so many times with NO ONES help but my own i have learned how to control and trust myself. Ive never gone off the deep, however i feel myself getting tired... SERIOUSLY GUYS quit while you still can.... while you still have a home a job..... or at the very least SELF RESPECT because $h1t like this will strip you clean before you know it...
Its going to get worse..The sub withdrawals stay with for for 6 months, the depression is doesnt let up, its true what they say it damages your brain permanently, hence why nobody I known has ever made it off subs..Methadone in my opinion is way easier then suboxone or subutex and thats saying something..You may need to go on methadone or do something about sub withdrawals because they wont let up..Anybody whos been on sub for over 3 months has just thrown their life away.