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Did you ever figure out what was causing all the joint pain after smoking? I experienced the same results the last 10 years and stopped smoking about 5 years ago because of the pain. It feels like arthritis and cracking or poping my fingers, toes and back help relieve some of the pain. I don't believe it's related to quality of green and my friend grows all natural organic Herb and I noticed the pain is not as bad so could be something to do with the pesticides and Chemical's in most weed. If I take Motrin or Ibuprofen 30min before smoking this helps with the pain and make sure you stay active stretch out and go for a jog or walk this takes your mind off the joint pain and keeps the blood heart rate up. Drink lots of filtered water this helps as well. Hopefully we can figure out the main cause and I can experience the pain free highs again like the old days..
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I believe people are getting back pains from smoking laced bud. Bud does not make you feel that way. Although eating it or using it in cosmetics is better than smoking because de smoke clouds your brain but will give you more cells than it burns even from smoking. It seems to be something that getting laced bud is de only way to get bud now days so it's better to get it from a doctor. You don't have to believe me I know a lot of people will argue de bud ain't laced your dealer will say that & you gonna wonder why it never happened before just look uP de effects of cocaine for starters & other drugs that's what happens. Also be Leary of de doctors too. It's a bad world we live in. I hate that some people use de bud as a scape goat saying bud is bad because it got laced just stop picking on de bud it is NOT de bud making your back hurt it is de lace you do not want. It's not fair people are doing that. Just a piece of advice to Stick to Reggie if you must get it from a street vendor & do no settle because they only have kush. Say no & or Google ways to tell if de bud is laced. I'm not saying this for certain but it seems like there's a conspiracy against weed to make it look bad against de better economic development of legalization.
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Then I realized after taking a dab that my pain was getting worse. I didn't want to believe it at first, just thinking that coughing after a hit was causing the spasms to kick in. So I smoked more after my muscles relaxed, and didn't cough. SPASMS. Damnit. The spasms got so bad, wrapping around my left side,making my ribs pop when inhaling, and making one of my thoracic vertebrae stick out further than normal. Like my muscles were literally pulling my bones out of place. Today my abs and back muscles feel like they did a rigorous workout.
I found a study performed by University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, and they discovered, and I quote, "Active ingredients in marijuana found to spread an prolong pain". Specifically, in the spinal cord, they found that cannabinoids removed inhibition in pain transduction. In other words, it lets pain signals travel easily and feel more pronounced.
That being said, I also have a back injury (L4 Spondylolithesis) as well as episacral lipoma. So my back is ripe for transmitting more pain signals. I'm curious if every person who experiences what I'll coin "Sudden Onset Cannabis Induced Spasms" (SOCIS) also has pre-existing nerve damage/trauma. Obviously the other person with L2 disc herniation would qualify. It makes me think it's a condition specifically within the spine, and not the neurons in the extremities or the brain. This is because the majority of posts pertain to lower back pain, but I've also read about and have personally experienced spasms in my thoracic and cervical spine after cannabis consumption.
I think a study needs to be performed for Sudden Onset Cannabis Induced Spasms (SOCIS). Right now too many variables exist, and it could be a condition that may start without warning to anyone, no matter how many times they've smoked. I've read accounts of it happening after several instances of consuming cannabis, others after almost a life of smoking without previous issues. It could be associated with previous spinal cord injury/aggravation. People with mental conditions like Bipolar disorder and depression could potentially be more likely to develop SOCIS (just a theory). I only say this because I have mental health diagnosis that predate my cannabis use, and I also saw a post from someone with SOCIS symptoms that suffers from Bipolar disorder. Also, SOCIS appears to occur just as randomly in young cannabis users, which should have much fewer incidents of pre-existing spinal injury... Could also be linked to autoimmune. I'm just throwing ideas out there. Any way you dice it, it's a real condition that has repeatable and similar symptoms across different people who develop it.
Cheers, and hopefully we can find out more! I definitely don't want to quit smoking weed, but I will if I can't enjoy it without incredibly painful and debilitating spasms. As of now, I'm abstaining.
-Jackson F.
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I've noticed something occurs commonly with chronic pot smokers: functional Kyphosis.
Smoking habitually may provide a double pronged effect. First, bad posture from 'relaxed' smoking sessions day in and day out can lead to a muscle imbalance in the back. This imbalance will eventually lead to a slight or pronounced hunchback, and back pain from muscle strain. If certain studies are correct, that high doses of cannabis can remove pain inhibition in spinal pathways, then smoking weed will only exacerbate the issue. Also, you'll be perpetuating the bad posture by smoking more..
So, is it possible to fix? I think so. You need to loosen the muscles that cause bad posture (with a back roller) and strengthen the muscles that hold your back in correct posture. It will take time. It's boring, but it's not hard to do.
A side note: it is probably best to quit smoking to promote recovery. However, depending on how regularly you consume cannabis, try tapering down slowly. I was doing very high doses, then quit cold turkey. Only a good idea if you enjoy 3 days of insomnia, sweaty hands/feet, and mood swings. Anyone who says you can't have withdrawals from cannabis is spewing sh*t. It doesn't mean cannabis is evil because it causes withdrawals. Caffeine causes withdrawals too, and we don't outcast the people who get them or call them addicts.
I plan to post back here after I recover fully, with a follow up. Cheers!
J.F.
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Yeah, my story goes like this, i smoked mary jane like 8 to 10 years, something like 2 to 3 times a week and sometimes 2-3 weeks passed without, i wasnt addicted to it, everything was ok but in last 2-3 years i began to feel upper back pain (between shoulder blades) and wasnt sure what caused it, later on i realised it was from smoking weed, and it hurts me right after i smoke, pain is not too strong, its like 4 on a scale to 10, but its annoying and it lasts cca 2 days. Then i realised i had this trigger points (between shoulder blades) or muscle knots and weed in my case cause inflammation of knots and then they press on the nerves causing pain. Only relief was laying down on the flor and keeping constant pressure with tennis ball for like 2-3 mins but that works only temporarily. I think i need to quit..yeah. Good luck
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